The Religious Right Makes me sick!

They will hand Hillary the Presidency

Published on October 24, 2007 By Moderateman In Politics

The hypocrisy of the religious right knows no boundaries. They insinuate themselves in the Republican party like a cancer invades the body of a healthy man, slowly they rot the body from within. They are the equal of the lunatic far left in every way, just as nuts, just as damaging to the American process. Hey Religious right, not everyone is a Christian, not everyone wants to be a Christian, you do more to push away conservative thinkers than any other part of the republican party with your ridiculous demands.

While I admit you have a fair amount of power in the party, to say you will not support the apparent front runner Rudy Giuliani because of his pro-choice stance shows how shallow you really are, all you do by this is hand the Presidency to Hillary, who is also pro-choice BTW, this is like cutting off your nose because something smells bad, an incredibly stupid things to do.

Your actions make me ashamed to be a Republican. Your smug faces make me want to slap them. Your holier than thou attitude does not reflect what I know of Jesus the man, it reflects someone so full of themselves and the power they wield.

Comments (Page 5)

danielost

on Oct 25, 2007

endorses a candidate or party or otherwise politicizes its mission.

by trying to do this you gag the priests and other religious leaders.

Larry Kuperman

on Oct 25, 2007

KFC said "As far as the Religious Right is concerned.....did you know they are Israel's biggest supporters? Falwell who was actually the one who got things started was a big friend of Israel and it was so noted by the leaders of Israel many times, including statements made at his funeral and afterwards."

It is perhaps more correct to say that Evangelists , the so-called Religious Right, are willing to use some sort of idealized, non-existent concept of Israel to fulfill their fantasies. But as long as people believe that me, and Moderate Man and the vast majority of people that actually live in the real Israel are going to burn in Hell for all eternity......you are not my supporter.

Jerry Falwell wrote "A GRACIOUS CORRECTION OF THE JERUSALEM POST" on March 2nd, 2006. "Earlier today, reports began circulating across the globe that I have recently stated that Jews can go to heaven without being converted to Jesus Christ. This is categorically untrue." Link

Short version, Jerry told me to go to Hell...in a gracious way.

You never hear anyone in the Religious Right talk about conscience. No sense that Romney and Giuliani act based on upon their consciences or that that would be a good thing. No room for respectful disagreement. Evangelists want us not to come to God, but to come to their God.

Israel and the United States both owe their establishment to the secular philosophers of the Age of Enlightenment. The Zionist Movement was tied to secularism of the Haskalah. Ben Franklin would have been welcomed by the Zionists. Jerry Falwell...not so much.

Dr Guy

on Oct 25, 2007

BTW I would never slap a Lady, wanting to slap and slapping are in two different worlds, I have never, ever put my hands on a female in anger, EVER! not once, SOMETHING not very many men can claim.

There are fortunately more of us than not, MM. But all too often, we only hear about the others that feel it is a right to hit a woman, not about the ones that never will or did,

kingbee

on Oct 25, 2007

by trying to do this you gag the priests and other religious leaders.

by not taxing them you put everyone else involved in the political process at a disadvantage. as it stands, they're permitted to raise and spend huge sums of money with very little oversight.

kingbee

on Oct 25, 2007

who needs ememas?

not to mention enemas.

SanChonino

on Oct 25, 2007

Jerry told me to go to Hell...in a gracious way.

Join the club, Kuperman. I get it every day.

But can we expect anything less from the Religious Right?

lulapilgrim

on Oct 25, 2007

Lula posts:

He's convinced some of the neo-Cons, like Hannity, et al, who are nominally pro-life, saying he'll appoint strict constrictionist judges. But that doesn't hold water. He didn't during his stint as mayor.

LW POSTS:

Oh come on, lula, nice way to wiggle out

LW tags, now I'm it!

lulapilgrim

on Oct 25, 2007

Kingbee posts:

people of faith have both a right and a duty to involve themselves in all civic matters and concerns as individuals or collectively as long as they don't turn the house of god into tammany hall.

Yes, people of faith and people of no faith as well as those who practice irreligion and false religion have both a right and a duty to involve themselves in all civic matters and concerns as individuals or collectively.....

You may rest assured that this person of faith sure doesn't want to turn the house of God into tammany hall. As far as those people of no faith, of irreligion and false religion, I can't be sure.

What say you?

lulapilgrim

on Oct 25, 2007

Giuliani has a long history of taking on tough issues, and even tougher opponents (the mafia, various corrupt trade unions, and violent, organized street gangs) and emerging victorious. He's not flip-flopping on issues, and although I'm sure you'd love to see him do so now, I have more respect for the man because he hasn't. He's not the sort of man who tells you what you want to hear while lying through his teeth, he tells you like it is.

He took a crumbling, crime-ridden cesspool of a city, once a shining jewel in the American crown, and within a few years not only made it a safe place to live again but a place Americans felt comfortable taking their families to for vacation. His leadership after 911 is unmatched, the man was calm, collected, and accesible.

All this and Rudy Guiliani hasn't the courage to be a man for life. Don't you get it LW? Rudy supports medical terrorism. Don't ever forget that true men of courage use their strength and knowledge to defend the weakest, most defenselss amongst us.

On life, Rudy doesn't stand tall....he stands small. He's afraid to defend the unborn child as well as the pregnant mother with his actions and words.

The right to life is the greatest civil rights issue of our time and until we get that right, America is a lost nation...

On 9/11, some 5,000 innocent lives were lost and Rudy was sad. All the while, Rudy approves everyday in New York that thousands of innocent blood is shed upon the altar of abortion.

lulapilgrim

on Oct 25, 2007

All this hatin' on him from the religious right

I don't hate Rudy. I hate what he stands for---the evil of abortion.

danielost

on Oct 25, 2007

by trying to do this you gag the priests and other religious leaders.

by not taxing them you put everyone else involved in the political process at a disadvantage. as it stands, they're permitted to raise and spend huge sums of money with very little oversight.

you want to gag someone because of their job. freedom of speech. the founding fathers said nothing against religion endorsing government. they said the government couldn't endorse one religion over another. which by the way they are doing.

Leauki

on Oct 25, 2007

That is true.

Jerry Falwell wrote "A GRACIOUS CORRECTION OF THE JERUSALEM POST" on March 2nd, 2006. "Earlier today, reports began circulating across the globe that I have recently stated that Jews can go to heaven without being converted to Jesus Christ. This is categorically untrue." Link Short version, Jerry told me to go to Hell...in a gracious way.

No. Mr. Falwell told you that he _believes_ that you will go to hell. I am sure he would glady convert you and save you. That's Christian belief, and there is nothing wrong with it. Personally, I think G-d is more forgiving than Mr. Falwell gives Him credit for. Either way, I don't mind people who believe that bad things will happen to me if I don't follow their advice. I only mind people who will _make_ bad things happen to me if I don't follow their orders. If a friend of mine told me that he believes that I should paint my living room red and green because I will suffer for it if I do not (perhaps he thinks that white walls make me sad), I would reject the advice. But I would not think that he wants me to be sad and I would not say that he is not really a friend. Same applies to any belief, including religious beliefs.

Troy Ruiz

on Oct 25, 2007

EQUATING FAITH WITH FANATICISM

It is interesting that all posts that are pro-Christian are distorted with great venom, in the very next post. I have long believed that it is impossible to have a reasonable discussion about faith, with folks who appear to be completely unacquainted with the subject. I have no doubt that this post I have written will be ripped out of context ,with the intent to be used as an attack on Faith and Christianity.

Attacking people who believe in a God who encourages love and service to all their neighbors, is nothing new. History has shown that spreading hate, prejudice and fear require little in the way of intelligence or wisdom. Petty name-calling has always been an anti-intellectual behavior.

Cikomyr

on Oct 25, 2007

As a Christian I do not require anyone to believe as I do, with a few exceptions. Don't murder, don't lie, don't cheat on your spouse, obey the laws of the land (ours in the US are based on the Ten Commandments, although liberals don't want you to know that), don't take other people's stuff, etc., you get the idea. Don't do harm to your neighbor or yourself, is usually a good policy. Teaching people to be nice to each other is one of the reasons they nailed Jesus on to two pieces of wood... But I digress.

You suggest that Atheists (or non-christians) don't have moral values?

I have moral values, but I don't believe in any religion. I just can't stand the fact of being morality shoved down my troath by other people, and having it accepted as The "Truth", which is the basic of pretty much every religion: you have a priest (or minister, or whatever) who tells you what is right and what is wrong.

I hate it, it prevent people from making their own moral calls, from having their own opinions and values. People should have values, but the one they choose rather than the one they are being told to have.

Leauki

on Oct 25, 2007

As a Christian I do not require anyone to believe as I do

Isn't the core of Christian faith the belief that Jesus saves those who believe in him? Anyway, atheists can have moral values, they are just not "enforced" by a belief in a god.

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