Coretta Scott King, Why all the fuss?

Published on February 7, 2006 By Moderateman In US Domestic

What’s the deal about Coretta Scott King?

If I see one more tribute to the dead wife of slain black leader Martin Luther King I am going to scream.

So what? She died, what’s the big deal? All this flying flags at half-mast for what reason? She was no national hero, She did nothing great, and her big claim to fame is her husband was killed.

Where were all the tributes when Jackie Kennedy died? Where was her body laid in state?

This is just more politically correct garbage; if she were white there would not be such a display.

How have we let America fall into such a place that we “honor” someone not for what she did, but for the color of her skin?

Comments (Page 7)

DJBandit

on Feb 14, 2006

#102 by cmorton
Tuesday, February 14, 2006

Ok, so what is your point? You make it sound as if anyone is refuting what she has done. No one is saying the opposite of what you are saying. Get that thru you thich, stupid, idiotic, caveman head of yours. You are definitely the wrong guy/girl to be definding King and his family about anything. I'll tell you this much, if I don't feel like it, I will not hold anyone to high standards short of saving my life. If we are to praise those who have made a difference in our lives than the right thing to do is to praise all of them not just a select few. And this applies to everything from sports, to Gov't, to a household. Micheal Jordan would have never been so good all by himself, in the end it was a team effort. If an Administration has done good for this country (none in particular) than they all deserve to be recognized, not just the President. In a family where both parents are there and both worked hard they both deserve to be recognized. That is the biggest problem this country, and the whole world for that matter, faces that we can't give everyone the praises they deserve, we only pick a select few for financial, political, racial or personal gain.

So say what you want, but neither MLK Jr, or his wife, or George Washington or Thomas Jefferson or President Bush or Christopher Colombus or Christopher Reeves or Martha Stewart, none of these people did what they did all by themselves. They all had people behind them, infront of them and next to them and they all deserve to be recognized because they also give their time to do what they did because they believed in it probably as much as the one who we all remember and recognize.

Moderateman

on Feb 14, 2006

Reply By: MyrranderPosted: Monday, February 13, 2006OK, I'll give you Michael for a second: Reagan's funeral was a circus, too. Mrs. King's funeral reminded me of nothing so much than R.W. Reagan's. The grandstanding at both funerals was not necessary. I'll fuck with both funerals, I'm no respector of persons. But here we are in this conversation about this funeral. come what may.

whewwww now I feel better!

Moderateman

on Feb 14, 2006

Reply By: cmortonPosted: Tuesday, February 14, 2006'She stood for peace'

I did not want to cut and paste your whole reply so forgive me.

yes she was a good woman and a supporter of civil rights, but so are thousands of people including many whites and NONE OF THEM get so honored, that is my point.

Moderateman

on Feb 14, 2006

Reply By: little_whipPosted: Tuesday, February 14, 2006

For petes sake, funerals are to pay tribute to the dead, in accordance to their wishes, and to do so in a low key, considerate, and dignified fashion designed to COMFORT those they left behind, not to make them squirm in their seats. It's certainly not a place for proselytising, nor is it a place for political NASTINESS.

my point exactly, to use a funeral as a forum for a bushbash fest is just so wrong in so many ways, yet NOT ONE LEFTY here on joeuser thinks it was.. funny how that works. except for myrr who is the voice of reason from the left. yikes.

foreverserenity

on Feb 14, 2006

Couldn't have said it better myself. Actually couldn't have said this at all. Hehe. One insightful for you.

Thx! I couldn't hold back anymore.

never apoligize donna, they had it coming, and I wanted to give it to them , but I know I would just be marginalized and called a racist if I did.

thank you.

I've got your back baby! No thx necessary.

Moderateman

on Feb 14, 2006

#109 by foreverserenity
Tuesday, February 14, 2006

I've got your back baby

as a former street thug that has much meaning to me, to have someones back is truly to be blessed in all things, I have your back too kid.

DJBandit

on Feb 14, 2006

as a former street thug that has much meaning to me, to have someones back is truly to be blessed in all things, I have your back too kid.

You guys are gonna make me cry here with all this mushy stuff.

Moderateman

on Feb 14, 2006

#111 by DJBandit
Tuesday, February 14, 2006

as a former street thug that has much meaning to me, to have someones back is truly to be blessed in all things, I have your back too kid.

You guys are gonna make me cry here with all this mushy stuff.

there are more than a few here that I feel kinship with dj, hope you get comfortable enough to enjoy the variety of wonderfull people here as I do.

DJBandit

on Feb 14, 2006

there are more than a few here that I feel kinship with dj, hope you get comfortable enough to enjoy the variety of wonderfull people here as I do.

I don't mind all the warm and fuzzy feelings, I'm an emotional guy, as long as it's not directed to me in a gay matter, I'm OK with it.

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DJBandit

on Feb 14, 2006

OK what was the topic again?

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cmorton

on Feb 15, 2006

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Congratulations! You have just proved the theory that there is no limit to human stupidity. Dullard, do yourself and everyone else a favor: disconnect your computer from the Internet.If brains were gasoline, you wouldn't have enough to drive an ant's Go-cart around the inside of a bottle cap. You wouldn't know a clue if it walked up to you, bit you on the ass, and announced 'I AM A CLUE'. You've got a big hole in your head, now shut it. When you are at a loss for words, your loss is our gain. Oh well, as the late Douglas Adams said: "You live and learn. At any rate, you live."Reading your post is less interesting than watching paint dry. If wit was spit, your mouth would be drier than a shallow well in an African heat wave. There's nothing wrong with you that couldn't be cured with a little Prozac and a polo mallet, or, better yet, suicide. Maybe you wouldn't be such a Jerk-In-The-Box if you didn't have an intellect rivaled only by the Village Idiot's stupider brother; if your weren't so fat from all that cheap beer you spend your Welfare payments on that your belly jiggle is the first ever perpetual motion machine, or if you weren't uglier than the north-facing end of a south-bound mule. Who am I kidding? You would.In closing, I suggest the next time that you feel an urge to embarrass yourself and bore others, that you summon all your might, and resist.

I may have made some typos, in my grammar, but, I guess you feel the need to try and make it more than what it really is. Do you feel better now? What I am suppose to feel all bad and stupid? This site just goes to show that if no one agrees with you, they are labelled stupid and racist because they share a different opinion. I have every reason to stand up and defend a lady of great honour.
As far as a few people on this site calling me a racist, that is amusing. LW is the only person on this site who has used the word "Ngger" freely.I haven't seen anyone else using it, regardless of the context. Yes , everyone has the right to change, and not to be judged, but read on......all that is being written on here is negative, and all of the reasons why Coretta Scott King doesn't deserve the burial she rightfully derserves. Who are all of you to say other wise. As far as one of the bloggers stating about me being "Angry", that is another label. I am just sick and tired of everyone else being an authoritive on race relations. My whole intent was to try and get everyone to see things from a different perspective, and not in a racist one. How would any of you know ? Have any of you experienced racial discrimination ? The whole point is, Would any of you be saying the same thing if Coretta Scott King was white? No, because Jackie kennedy was brought up as not having the same honour for her burial. There always has to be a comparison between the two. This is what the topic is about, not race, but you are completely ignoring the others who have made it a "racial topic". Some of you are so quick to judge others, but don't want to be judged, so what makes you right? I have always been successful in most things, and I have never used the race card to get where I wanted to be in life. Other prominent blacks have worked hard to get where they are today, and yes maybe they did it with the help of others, but who hasn't, Black or white? Maybe I did come off in a strong and defensive manner, but my frustration stems from the racist steryo-typing that other bloggers have written, and have it swept under the rug. I never was trying to make this a racial topic, but if you go back and read some of the comments posted by others, it makes you think that this site is a place for releasing racist tensions. I do realize this is a public forum, and everyone is entiled to their own opinions, but when you don't agree with the few regulars on this site you become under personal attack.When I went off on LW , it was because of the joke she made regarding slaves being whipped. I didn't find any humour in that. This is an actual fact. I had no idea that LW use to be a past klan member until she shared that piece of personal information. Regardless, the whole point is if she can change,then the same rules should apply to others as well. LW may not want to be judged for her past actions, so why judge Coretta Scott King? Right from the beginning I was only trying to point this out, yes things may have gotten nasty, and I was called a racist right down to being a welfare recipient! That's ok, I have "Thick Skin". I know the difference. I am not going to let some ramblings of the "Ignorant" upset me. As far as Black History Month goes, I posted the poem in honour, not in racism. These things did really happen, regardless if any of us like it or not. From this point on, I will refrain from personal attacks to all the bloggers on the site. If I can't get a point across so be it, but I expect the same treatment in return. So as far as getting caught up in a debate of race, I will let it rest from here. As far as the KKK goes, and anyone who is affiliated with them, I have no respect for. I feel strongly about this, this is why I personally attacked LW. My appologies LW, for the things I have said to you. I don't know you personally, but I thought that some of the things you said were from your old days with the KKK. If all subjects being discussed are within civil regard, then this site should be open to others opinions as well. I went back and read all of the postings, including mine, and I didn;t feel good about a lot of it. I am not a racist, and I am now trying a peaceful approach. If I can leave this site in that manner and understanding, then this would be a start of what Coretta Scott King stands for. My appologies for the personal attacks, it would matter more to me to be respected than to be labelled something that I'm not. I have learned something from this , not everyone is going to agree with you all of the time, but we would like to be heard. I still stand on my beliefs, but I will do it with PEACE!

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drmiler

on Feb 15, 2006

Would any of you be saying the same thing if Coretta Scott King was white? No, because Jackie Kennedy was brought up as not having the same Honor for her burial.

Shows how little you know of us. This is basically calling the rest of us racist. Which is blatantly false. Lets take Dr. William "Bill" Cosby for instance. The "man" has done a LOT of good in his life. Very probably more than Ms. King. Do you think he will be accorded the same honors when he does pass from this life? I doubt it. These are the inequities we're talking about. Jackie was brought up NOT because she was "white", but because she was the wife of a sitting president of the US who was assassinated at the hight of his career. She gave her all to our great country (her husband) and took it on the chin. But she was not given the honor of lying in state and "should have" been. And just an fyi "no one" here has ever suggested Ms King was not a great woman and deserving of honor. What was said is she did not deserve to lie in state. "That" honor is usually reserved for past and present president's of the US.

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Chaos Manager

on Feb 15, 2006

Have any of you experienced racial discrimination ?

Hmmmm.... *looks at self* Young-ish, WASP, Eastern European descent. Okay - here's 2 stories about me that I rarely tell.

1. As a man of Eastern European descent (Polish to be precise), I have been pulled into an interrogation room by German Federal Police that guard Frankfurt airport (and no, I'm not going to spell that in German). All because I have dark hair, dark beard, and a swarthy complexion. This was back in the mid to late 90's when they were exceptionally paranoid.

2. I (until recently) was a resident of a city that was 95% black. Everytime I went to a restaurant in town, I received shoddy, lukewarm service. When a person who more closely matched the demographics of the city (Oh, hell, when a black person) came in, they got speedy service that was at least marginally acceptable. I was never actually turned away from any of the restaurants, but I was made to be seriously inconvenienced or made to feel inferior.

All of this because of the fact that, even with my darker skin tone (more oliveskinned than British pasty white), I wasn't black.

So, yes, I've experienced racism.

from the racist steryo-typing that other bloggers have written,

Here's my problem with most of the drivel that you've written (aside from your obvious phobias against paragraphs - dude! Press ENTER! It works wonders for legibility/readibility!). You were the first here (on this thread) to start tossing racist ideas around. Inspite of this, you're the one to call others racist? For shame.

Now, on the topic - I have no problem with the lady lying in state. That was an honor that was chosen - for whatever reason - to be bestowed upon her. Great. To a certain extent, I believe she was worthy of them. Did she deserve the dishonor that Carter, Sharptoon and others heaped on her by using her memorial service as just another political rally? Not even close. If they wanted another opportunity to Bash Bush (TM), then all they had to do is call a press conference (and the media would jump all over it 'cause they love to just trash Bush at every opportunity) and proceed with the same speech as written. Using a memorial service for this was just plain wrong.

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drmiler

on Feb 15, 2006

I may have made some typos, in my grammar, but, I guess you feel the need to try and make it more than what it really is. Do you feel better now? What I am suppose to feel all bad and stupid?

Yes you were supposed to feel all bad and stupid. I posted those lines not because of you grammar. But because you were being very ignorant and rude to a lot of people. And I thought you deserving of a reply of the same qualities.

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cmorton

on Feb 15, 2006

Sorry about the long paragraph, understood,I will make things a little more easier to read.
So for future reference, does that mean I will be welcomed if I conduct my opinions in a peaceful and respectful manner?

I will hang around and try to get to know the other guests if I am welcomed.I would like to try offer some of my life experiences, although now some of you have pre-conceived thoughts about me. I am apologizing for my actions, but there is no need to insult my intelligence.
I am not an idiot, although I may have gotten carried away. The apology is sincere I have typed a lot of things in haste, and yes the grammar had a lot of typos in it. That doesn't give anyone the right for to assume I am uneducated or a complete idiot.

I might of went off on a tyrant, but can we get pass that? you don't have to agree with me on everything, but I did say I was sorry.
For future debates I will come to the site with facts, so that they can be challenged in a civil and respectful manner.
I understand the motto ; "In order to get respect you have to give it" TRUCE......

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