America has problems, but America is NOT THE PROBLEM!~
Published on January 7, 2005 By Moderateman In Politics
While watching the news I am once again shocked to see how out of touch the left is with REALITY.

They demand we play fair with a group of people bent on the total destruction of America.

This is total bull dookey!!!!

Keeping a room hot is not torture..... remember these nut jobs live and fight in the freaking DESERT.

Keeping a room cold is not torture,.. these same nutjobs live in caves.. to hide so they can keep killing innocent people..

Playing music loud while very annoying {90 decibels} is not torture {unless its babs striesand singing}

Making a person stand in an uncomfortable position is NOT torture.

Putting a hood over someones head is scarey but is not torture.

We do worse to our own american peoples. the prisons of america...

I once again find myself asking what is it with the left that they cry for our enemies so loud.... for making them uncomfortable.

They {the enemy} has no compunction letting american wounds rot while holding them prisoners, beheading people publically. even tho these people are NOT combatants.

Killing a female aid worker, that so shocked the arab world that even aljazera a terroist news org would not show the tape of her killing.

NOw let me defang some of the leftwing bleeding hearts here before I catch some kinda disease from there bleeding all over my monitor.

I do not condone hooking someone genitals to a battery... Cutting there ears off..ramming sharp objects up there fingernails.. or any form of what really qualifies as torture.. Unlike what the germans and japaneese did to us military people in ww2 and the vietnameese did in viet nam war.

We are in a fight with a people that DO NOT GIVE A FLYING frell about playing by any rules .. why does the left insist we do??
please dont bleed all over by taking some kinda american supiority stance.....The we must show the world how good we are crap....

This is A WAR for survival... get it right and get it now before its too late...


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on Jan 07, 2005

Reply #27 By: Dr. Guy - 1/7/2005 2:20:09 PM
thank you for wanting to serve...... btw I am married to a vietnam era war protester and so was my older brother.... ahhh fun and games in the homefront...

I dated a Liberal that waws left of John Kerry! Yep, 60s Hippy, Singer in a Rock and Roll band (her brother was a Vice President in the company I worked for as well, altho I did not know that until after we started dating. And he was right of me!)
We had some great times! But Alas, she was not looking for a Husband, just some fun times. Which worked out well!


when I returned in 1966 I was shocked to see"make love not war signs" soooooo I quickly disguised myself assa civilian and boinked the brains outta many of em smirk>
on Jan 07, 2005
Gid? Barney is a dem ain't he?
on Jan 07, 2005

Barney Frank, if I'm not much mistaken, was the one taken to task for being an openly gay republican.


But I could be wrong. Wouldn't be the first time.

on Jan 07, 2005
I stand corrected.
on Jan 07, 2005

Gid? Barney is a dem ain't he?

I thought he was a purple dinosaur?

on Jan 07, 2005
I thought he was a purple dinosaur?


But then, isn't purple the color of the gays rights movement?

Here's my two cents: torture is no way to run a war, and we should and do always try to take the high road. But sometimes you have to let the unwashed, uncivilized barbarian in you come out. If we don't do this, we're going to be fighting this war on terror at a great disadvantage, as if we aren't already.
Like I've said before, if you want to defeat a monster sometimes you have to become a monster. I have to grudgingly agree with Moderateman here.

Maybe that was three cents. Oh well.......
on Jan 07, 2005

Like I've said before, if you want to defeat a monster sometimes you have to become a monster. I have to grudgingly agree with Moderateman here.


Based upon what Moderateman said, and the nature of the combatants (ie, this does not apply to Iraqi POWs), I would also agree.  I do not agree with bamboo shoots up the fingernails, but sleep deprivation? Rock Music?  Making one stand for hours at a time?  I hardly think that is torture.  That was my Jr High PE class!

on Jan 07, 2005

But then, isn't purple the color of the gays rights movement?


Dont know!  My Brother wants a Pink and Blue Wedding next year.  Guess that makes purple.  I will have to ask him.

on Jan 07, 2005
That was my Jr High PE class
----Dr. Guy

They taught us to do "The Hustle"...think I could appeal to the UN's Human Rights Commission?

Maybe they could play William Hung? "She bang! She bang! Oh, yeah!" He also has that Christmas album......ABBA, maybe? Although I have to admit that I do like some of their stuff.....Hey! I got it....the perfect aural torture-----Vanilla Ice! ++
They could also show them movies like "Gigli" and "The Village". And if they wanted to induce nausea, they could show "The Blair Witch Project". Guaranteed to cause motion sickness every time.


Seriously, though, what if they played, say.....Christian music very loudly? It goes against their faith, for one thing.
And personally, I'd certainly consider that sickly-sweet, gooey, treacly stuff torturous, especially for hours at a time at high decibles.

"You are amay-zing Go-od!" My wife loves Christian music. I hate it, and I'm a Christian, too.
on Jan 07, 2005
Another thing, though....if they're playing this stuff at such high decibles, isn't it also bothering the guards? Kind of hard to blast music without anyone but the intended subjects hearing. That means the torturers are suffering, too, and should count for somthing, in my book
on Jan 07, 2005

Maybe they could play William Hung? "She bang! She bang! Oh, yeah!" He also has that Christmas album......ABBA, maybe? Although I have to admit that I do like some of their stuff.....Hey! I got it....the perfect aural torture-----Vanilla Ice! ++
They could also show them movies like "Gigli" and "The Village". And if they wanted to induce nausea, they could show "The Blair Witch Project". Guaranteed to cause motion sickness every time.


Ouch!  Dont include ABBA!  I love them!  The rest, get your fingernails off the chalkk boards!!!!!!    Arroooooooo!!!!!


ouch!


(BTW, never seen the village, but my son wants to.  Is it really that bad?  Guess I will bring a pillow when I see it with him!)

on Jan 07, 2005
Seriously, though, what if they played, say.....Christian music very loudly?


Onward Christian Solider...

For a real kick, check this out: http://www.ebaumsworld.com/diplomacy.shtml

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on Jan 07, 2005

Seriously, though, what if they played, say.....Christian music very loudly? It goes against their faith, for one thing.
And personally, I'd certainly consider that sickly-sweet, gooey, treacly stuff torturous, especially for hours at a time at high decibles.


I am a Christian!  And that would be torture to me!  Hello Geneva Convention!

on Jan 07, 2005
I was just thinking....people disagree with me on my "becoming a monster to defeat a monster" thing......I've been told that we took the "high road" in WW2, for example, and won anyway.
But, did we really take the high road? I mean, the air forces and militaries of multiple nations combined to kick the living shit out of two. Ever seen pictures of the cities of Germany in 1945? How about Japan? We bombed some of those cities completely flat and then some, killing untold numbers of civilians.
I know that Germany, for example, bombed England mercilessly, but we turned right around and gave them much worse than was given, long after Germany's ability to easily reach England by air was gone (they had to resort to their unmanned, but still very destructive, V-weapons).
Look at Hiroshima and Nagasaki.....what we did there was probably the most barbaric thing ever done in warfare, but we did it.....because at the time, it NEEDED to be done (though I know some will disagree with me on that point).
Maybe making our captured enemies a little uncomfortable is okay.....maybe it needs to be done. They'd no doubt to do much worse to us.
on Jan 07, 2005
Reply By: RightwingerPosted: Friday, January 07, 2005I thought he was a purple dinosaur?But then, isn't purple the color of the gays rights movement?Here's my two cents: torture is no way to run a war, and we should and do always try to take the high road. But sometimes you have to let the unwashed, uncivilized barbarian in you come out. If we don't do this, we're going to be fighting this war on terror at a great disadvantage, as if we aren't already. Like I've said before, if you want to defeat a monster sometimes you have to become a monster. I have to grudgingly agree with Moderateman here.


ummmmm i think so too sometimes ya gotta take the gloves off
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