America has problems, but America is NOT THE PROBLEM!~
Published on January 7, 2005 By Moderateman In Politics
While watching the news I am once again shocked to see how out of touch the left is with REALITY.

They demand we play fair with a group of people bent on the total destruction of America.

This is total bull dookey!!!!

Keeping a room hot is not torture..... remember these nut jobs live and fight in the freaking DESERT.

Keeping a room cold is not torture,.. these same nutjobs live in caves.. to hide so they can keep killing innocent people..

Playing music loud while very annoying {90 decibels} is not torture {unless its babs striesand singing}

Making a person stand in an uncomfortable position is NOT torture.

Putting a hood over someones head is scarey but is not torture.

We do worse to our own american peoples. the prisons of america...

I once again find myself asking what is it with the left that they cry for our enemies so loud.... for making them uncomfortable.

They {the enemy} has no compunction letting american wounds rot while holding them prisoners, beheading people publically. even tho these people are NOT combatants.

Killing a female aid worker, that so shocked the arab world that even aljazera a terroist news org would not show the tape of her killing.

NOw let me defang some of the leftwing bleeding hearts here before I catch some kinda disease from there bleeding all over my monitor.

I do not condone hooking someone genitals to a battery... Cutting there ears off..ramming sharp objects up there fingernails.. or any form of what really qualifies as torture.. Unlike what the germans and japaneese did to us military people in ww2 and the vietnameese did in viet nam war.

We are in a fight with a people that DO NOT GIVE A FLYING frell about playing by any rules .. why does the left insist we do??
please dont bleed all over by taking some kinda american supiority stance.....The we must show the world how good we are crap....

This is A WAR for survival... get it right and get it now before its too late...


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on Jan 07, 2005
Reply By: ManopeacePosted: Friday, January 07, 2005You are not gonna sway my opinion on this k?Of course it is! 2 Jews=3 opinions See you tomorrow... Shabbat Shalom Bro!


big smile here be well stay safe today and everyday...
on Jan 07, 2005
Reply By: thatoneguyinslcPosted: Friday, January 07, 2005Mod is right and everybody else is wrong. And what war did YOU fight in Mod...I'm curious? I grew up on military bases (Dad was a Line Officer 1st MEF) Gramps fought in the Pacific in WW2 I have seen what war can do. I have also seen what torture can do. Face it man, you are so out of touch here.


um proudly served usmc 1965 thru 1966 father usmc ww2 in west pac....... my son desert storm also usmc...
on Jan 07, 2005
Reply By: thatoneguyinslcPosted: Friday, January 07, 2005Also, turnabout is fair play Mod...Same thing you said to Myr about reading what you want to see, but 180 it on yourself.


did not I said what I said and stated specific things I condone and things that I do not condone...
on Jan 07, 2005
Reply By: thatoneguyinslcPosted: Friday, January 07, 2005Mod is right and everybody else is wrong.


glad you see the errs of your way ... giggle giggle..... I do not think what anyone does is ALWAYS RIGHT bush made mistakes so did rumsfeld,,,,,,
on Jan 07, 2005
Semper Fi Mod I salute ya. But that don't mean i agree with ya...

What i meant was when you told Mod he was reading what he wanted to see. You did the same thing to my post.
We fight wars to WIN, not declare victory then fight pitched battles with the new enemy we let sneak in because we "won" the war and didn't need to stay vigilant. As a Vietnam era vet, you should know this. My dad served three tours in Vietnam, (in fact he was there the day i was born in 1968 during the Tet offensive.) He told me once that the only time you should fight a war is when you are fullly prepared to win. You fight it once or don't fight it at all. I hate to say it, but in a way i'm glad he's not around to see what is going on today.

Because our government appears to have learned nothing from that war. Even though the military claims otherwise.
on Jan 07, 2005
Reply By: thatoneguyinslcPosted: Friday, January 07, 2005Semper Fi Mod I salute ya. But that don't mean i agree with ya... What i meant was when you told Mod he was reading what he wanted to see. You did the same thing to my post.We fight wars to WIN, not declare victory then fight pitched battles with the new enemy we let sneak in because we "won" the war and didn't need to stay vigilant. As a Vietnam era vet, you should know this. My dad served three tours in Vietnam, (in fact he was there the day i was born in 1968 during the Tet offensive.) He told me once that the only time you should fight a war is when you are fullly prepared to win. You fight it once or don't fight it at all. I hate to say it, but in a way i'm glad he's not around to see what is going on today.Because our government appears to have learned nothing from that war. Even though the military claims otherwise.


again gonna have to AGREE TO DISAGREE WITH YOU... I return the semper fidelis to ya... This is what america {freeworld} is about people disagreeing and exchanging ideas.... I love this kinda exchange,,,,, thank you for standing strong by what you believe.
on Jan 07, 2005

Playing music loud while very annoying {90 decibels} is not torture {unless its babs striesand singing}

I heard it was a LOT worse!  They also played Barry Manilow!  I think that qualifies as cruel and unusual in itself!

on Jan 07, 2005
As a matter of fact, the 2nd ammendment is the only one that the right really seems willing to defend.


Of all the Amendments the second is certainly my favorite because, while I do love my brother, I do not unconditionally trust him to protect the individual from government overreaching.
on Jan 07, 2005
I gotta agree with Guy here....Isn't Manilow against the Geneva Convention?

Hit makes a good point too.

I always wanted to serve. But a blown left ACL and a bad surgery prevented me from joining.
on Jan 07, 2005
Reply By: Dr. GuyPosted: Friday, January 07, 2005Playing music loud while very annoying {90 decibels} is not torture {unless its babs striesand singing}I heard it was a LOT worse! They also played Barry Manilow! I think that qualifies as cruel and unusual in itself!


Oh MY GOD now that should be against the geneva conv.... what horror , what cruelity.. I am shocked....
on Jan 07, 2005
Reply By: thatoneguyinslcPosted: Friday, January 07, 2005I gotta agree with Guy here....Isn't Manilow against the Geneva Convention? Hit makes a good point too. I always wanted to serve. But a blown left ACL and a bad surgery prevented me from joining.


thank you for wanting to serve...... btw I am married to a vietnam era war protester and so was my older brother.... ahhh fun and games in the homefront...
on Jan 07, 2005

thank you for wanting to serve...... btw I am married to a vietnam era war protester and so was my older brother.... ahhh fun and games in the homefront...

I dated a Liberal that waws left of John Kerry!  Yep, 60s Hippy, Singer in a Rock and Roll band (her brother was a Vice President in the company I worked for as well, altho I did not know that until after we started dating. And he was right of me!)

We had some great times!  But Alas, she was not looking for a Husband, just some fun times.  Which worked out well!

on Jan 07, 2005

Playing music loud while very annoying {90 decibels} is not torture {unless its babs striesand singing}


However, it bears noting that a good Republican would never invest in a Babs Streisand tape (Barney Frank excepted).

on Jan 07, 2005

However, it bears noting that a good Republican would never invest in a Babs Streisand tape (Barney Frank excepted).

Forgive me sir, for I have sinned!  I have the sound track to A star is Born!

on Jan 07, 2005
Reply #28 By: Gideon MacLeish - 1/7/2005 2:21:01 PM
Playing music loud while very annoying {90 decibels} is not torture {unless its babs striesand singing}



However, it bears noting that a good Republican would never invest in a Babs Streisand tape (Barney Frank excepted).


shhhhhhhhhh I have many of her alblums cds etc...........do not share this with anyone as my republican card might be declared void, do not tell anyone ok??
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