America has problems, but America is NOT THE PROBLEM!~
Published on January 7, 2005 By Moderateman In Politics
While watching the news I am once again shocked to see how out of touch the left is with REALITY.

They demand we play fair with a group of people bent on the total destruction of America.

This is total bull dookey!!!!

Keeping a room hot is not torture..... remember these nut jobs live and fight in the freaking DESERT.

Keeping a room cold is not torture,.. these same nutjobs live in caves.. to hide so they can keep killing innocent people..

Playing music loud while very annoying {90 decibels} is not torture {unless its babs striesand singing}

Making a person stand in an uncomfortable position is NOT torture.

Putting a hood over someones head is scarey but is not torture.

We do worse to our own american peoples. the prisons of america...

I once again find myself asking what is it with the left that they cry for our enemies so loud.... for making them uncomfortable.

They {the enemy} has no compunction letting american wounds rot while holding them prisoners, beheading people publically. even tho these people are NOT combatants.

Killing a female aid worker, that so shocked the arab world that even aljazera a terroist news org would not show the tape of her killing.

NOw let me defang some of the leftwing bleeding hearts here before I catch some kinda disease from there bleeding all over my monitor.

I do not condone hooking someone genitals to a battery... Cutting there ears off..ramming sharp objects up there fingernails.. or any form of what really qualifies as torture.. Unlike what the germans and japaneese did to us military people in ww2 and the vietnameese did in viet nam war.

We are in a fight with a people that DO NOT GIVE A FLYING frell about playing by any rules .. why does the left insist we do??
please dont bleed all over by taking some kinda american supiority stance.....The we must show the world how good we are crap....

This is A WAR for survival... get it right and get it now before its too late...


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on Jan 08, 2005
I'm just want to say that during WW2 we also did some other bad things. I think we all know about the SS murdering captured GIs during the Battle of the Buldge. But do you know that Roosevelt had nine Germany POWs lined up in Oklahoma and shot in response? The Germans never did execute prisoners again, because they learned we would go as far as we did. It is OK to hold restrains on what we do to prisoners, but in my opinion the knowledge that we can and will do such things is worth the results. When the enemy knows (by the media and bleeding heart crying) that we can not touch then, give them free lawyers, rights equivalent to an American citizen, and access to a court of law (all which they would never get in their own country), they will not hold the respect or fear required to prevent more attacks. I am not advocating all out torture, but advertising our unwillingness to use it is highly counter productive.

As for Berry Manalow being torture? Years ago I asked a girl out that I thought at the time I could never get to even first base (was a very bad dry spell in my life). She was way out of my league (perfect model type) and had never let any guy touch her, that me or her friends could remember. I had received a pair of Manalow tickets from a friend. We went and it was three hours of torture. But the good thing was I found how to push this ice cubes buttons. Three weeks of pure joy followed. The only thing I had to due was slip a Berry Manalow tape in the player. I still have those tapes. When I listen to them they still sound like torture, but what great memories. My wife wonders why I smile when I hear a Manalow song, and she knows I hate him music.

That's My Two Cents
on Jan 08, 2005
Well put, '76.

As for Mnilow being torture....i still think Vanilla Ice would work better. I can see it now:

"DUN-dun-dun-dada-dun-DUN-Chk....DUN-dun-dun-dada-dun-DUN-Chk.....Awright, STOP! Collaborate an' listen....Ice is back, with a bran'-new invention; Somethin'...grabs ahold of me tightly, (something) like hawk, both daily and nightly---------"

"AAAIEEEE" Allah have mercy! Whaaaa! Pleeez make it stop! Alright! Alright! I tell you where Osama is! I tell you anything you want to know! Just make it stoooooop! Whaaaha-a!!
Okay, okay----I tell you! Osama is holed up, selling crack out of a whorehouse in Hoboken, New Jersey!
Just take that unholy noise awaaaaayyyy! Whaaaaa!"

It could work.
on Jan 08, 2005

Reply #51 By: thatoneguyinslc - 1/8/2005 1:35:03 AM
Uh miler? I never questioned what he has seen in this thread. I also am well aware that Mod's service was during vietnam. Get a clue.

I lived on base in San Diego when i was a kid, and i saw some of the POW's come home in 1973. i was five. Those guys looked like they had suffered things that i cannot imagine. Like the life had been sucked out of them, and their hollow eyes. I will never ever forget the looks on their faces.

THAT my friends is why i do NOT believe in torture.

Can YOU say that miler? Thought not. The condescending tone kinda drowned out what my message was i guess.


Now your talking out your arse. You were a kid, while I on the otherhand just barely missed going! I had too many *friends* and relatives come back from POW camps looking like death warmed over.
POWS/MIAS? The flag has flown on my mast since 75!
on Jan 08, 2005
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on Jan 08, 2005

Reply #61 By: Lee1776 - 1/8/2005 3:28:46 AM
I'm just want to say that during WW2 we also did some other bad things. I think we all know about the SS murdering captured GIs during the Battle of the Buldge. But do you know that Roosevelt had nine Germany POWs lined up in Oklahoma and shot in response? The Germans never did execute prisoners again, because they learned we would go as far as we did. It is OK to hold restrains on what we do to prisoners, but in my opinion the knowledge that we can and will do such things is worth the results. When the enemy knows (by the media and bleeding heart crying) that we can not touch then, give them free lawyers, rights equivalent to an American citizen, and access to a court of law (all which they would never get in their own country), they will not hold the respect or fear required to prevent more attacks. I am not advocating all out torture, but advertising our unwillingness to use it is highly counter productive.

As for Berry Manalow being torture? Years ago I asked a girl out that I thought at the time I could never get to even first base (was a very bad dry spell in my life). She was way out of my league (perfect model type) and had never let any guy touch her, that me or her friends could remember. I had received a pair of Manalow tickets from a friend. We went and it was three hours of torture. But the good thing was I found how to push this ice cubes buttons. Three weeks of pure joy followed. The only thing I had to due was slip a Berry Manalow tape in the player. I still have those tapes. When I listen to them they still sound like torture, but what great memories. My wife wonders why I smile when I hear a Manalow song, and she knows I hate him music.

That's My Two Cents


My God Lee, I hope she *never* figures it out. If she ever does she'll make you throw those tapes away.

I have a tape like that, simular story, Prince and the Revolution *Purple Rain"
on Jan 08, 2005
Reply By: kingbeePosted: Saturday, January 08, 2005taking the high road isn't always the most efficient, or safest, way to get things done. It might be always preferable, but not always the "best" in the practical sensehow many of the women who confessed to being witches in the inquisition or while being otherwise tortured were telling the truth?


thats a sample of high physical torture kingbee , what I posted was makeing them uncomfortable.... not ripping there fingernails off...
on Jan 08, 2005
Reply By: thatoneguyinslcPosted: Saturday, January 08, 2005Uh miler? I never questioned what he has seen in this thread. I also am well aware that Mod's service was during vietnam. Get a clue.I lived on base in San Diego when i was a kid, and i saw some of the POW's come home in 1973. i was five. Those guys looked like they had suffered things that i cannot imagine. Like the life had been sucked out of them, and their hollow eyes. I will never ever forget the looks on their faces. THAT my friends is why i do NOT believe in torture.Can YOU say that miler? Thought not. The condescending tone kinda drowned out what my message was i guess.


mesasge received by ME loud and clear ok??? I do not have to agree with it but I do hear and respect your stance
on Jan 08, 2005
Reply By: kingbeePosted: Saturday, January 08, 2005i dont know why this is suddenly a left-right issue.


I really just wanted this to be a discussion on what is perceived torture kingbee...
on Jan 08, 2005
Reply By: RightwingerPosted: Saturday, January 08, 2005onna side note "history" look at what our military did in the philipines circa early pre ww1 ... we took muslim extremist and threatened to wrap em in pig skin if they did not talk... is that torture too??Pershing DID bury Muslim insurgents with pigs, as an example to the others. Kinda made'em think twice. Different world, that was, but not necessarily worse.


still might not be a bad plan to do NOW....
on Jan 08, 2005
As for Berry Manalow being torture? Years ago I asked a girl out that I thought at the time I could never get to even first base (was a very bad dry spell in my life). She was way out of my league (perfect model type) and had never let any guy touch her, that me or her friends could remember. I had received a pair of Manalow tickets from a friend. We went and it was three hours of torture. But the good thing was I found how to push this ice cubes buttons. Three weeks of pure joy followed. The only thing I had to due was slip a Berry Manalow tape in the player. I still have those tapes. When I listen to them they still sound like torture, but what great memories. My wife wonders why I smile when I hear a Manalow song, and she knows I hate him music.That's My Two Cents


and have a 3rd cent from me. ah men men men we will do most anything to score wont we? lmao
on Jan 08, 2005
Reply By: RightwingerPosted: Saturday, January 08, 2005Well put, '76.As for Mnilow being torture....i still think Vanilla Ice would work better. I can see it now:"DUN-dun-dun-dada-dun-DUN-Chk....DUN-dun-dun-dada-dun-DUN-Chk.....Awright, STOP! Collaborate an' listen....Ice is back, with a bran'-new invention; Somethin'...grabs ahold of me tightly, (something) like hawk, both daily and nightly---------""AAAIEEEE" Allah have mercy! Whaaaa! Pleeez make it stop! Alright! Alright! I tell you where Osama is! I tell you anything you want to know! Just make it stoooooop! Whaaaha-a!! Okay, okay----I tell you! Osama is holed up, selling crack out of a whorehouse in Hoboken, New Jersey!Just take that unholy noise awaaaaayyyy! Whaaaaa!"It could work.


how about metalica.... played at 110 decabils?
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