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How soon people forget.
Published on December 27, 2008 By Moderateman In Current Events

In a new national poll from Russia, Dictator and Mass murderer Joseph Stalin is in the running for the number one slot.

Remember now this man by conservative estimates slaughtered 25 million people and sent countless millions to slave labor camps {called Gulags}

The poll claims Stalin acted in a "rational" MANNER while in charge of Russia from 1928 to 1953, the thing most remembered was that Stalin "saved" the Russian people from Hitler, another mass murderer whos atrocities pale in comparrison to Stalin.

How soon people forget the midnight raids on homes where people disappeared, never to be seen again, where any form of free speech was instantly and severely stopped and the speaker either executed or sentenced as a political prisoner and sent to Siberia to work in SLAVE labor camps till they died.

The only comparrison I can make in an American way would be to have the BTK OR THE GREEN RIVER KILLER being declared the single best role model for children in the United States.

How sick is this?

Stalin's secret police were so feared that just the mention of them could tear households apart, the ruthlessness of the KGB far outstripped our own CIA.

When Russia disbanded the KGB the members simply used their knowledge to go Gangster, the Russian Mafiya is one of the most feared criminal organizations on the planet due to their training while in the KGB, they used their connections they had as spies to get them going and have never looked back and we have Joseph Stalin to thank for this legacy too.

Religion was repressed, this was probably the only GOOD thing Stalin did.


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on Jan 08, 2009

lulapilgrimon Jan 08, 2009

The Old Testament faith fulfilled its glorious mission in and through the birth of the Son of David, Jesus Christ. He caused the Jewish Acorn to blossom forth into the glorious Oak, known as the Catholic Church. The Catholic Chruch is the light in this dark world.

you see this IS YOUR OPINION, there are billions of people on the planet that think Catholics are the BLIGHT of the world not the LIGHT, I think all religion is a BLIGHT including Catholicism, Which Is why I said the only good think Stalin did was ban religion.

Also after careful consideration I am starting to agree with Leauki that you are an anti-semite and might not even know it.

on Jan 08, 2009

I dunno why, but that made me throw up in my mouth a little bit.

Who but you can explain the things you do?

on Jan 08, 2009

little-whip
 after all, no pope in history has discarded his elegant costumes or golden crown to don coarse cloth and a crown of thorns.Touche'! And I am also sure that if you find a single Catholic who, as an old man remembers to have been told by his grand mother's best friend, has been found to have been a possible protagonist of a story which, leaving out every second word, could have been said to have been about a subject not proven to be enthusiastically in favour of communism at a first glance, you would use him as absolutele and total proof of Catholicism being the only religion consistently opposed to communism.Ya think? 

All I remember about Roman Catholics is being called Christ killer at the age of 13 from that point on I stayed awayu from all religious people.

on Jan 08, 2009

Adventure-Dude
As far as the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion", I know that was an anti-Semitic hoax.It may be a hoax Lula, but one has to note that I don't see Stalin preventing this propaganda from being distributed.  I find it rather hard for one to NOT believe that Jews and Judaism condemned the communism under Stalin.

I believe you are arguing with a blank wall AD.

on Jan 08, 2009

This info about Isreal, however, does not sufficeintly furnish proof of your claim.

How many Jews have to fight against communist and communist-allied forces to prove to you that Judaism is opposed to Stalin's communism?

 

And I'm still waiting to learn how Islam opposed Stalin's repression of the practice of religion in the USSR. 

Your speed of learning is not my problem. I pointed you to the Mujahedeen in Afghanistan in the 1980s.

 

You are so eager to bash the CC, that you just throw stuff out there hoping it will stick and go unchallenged.

I never bash the Catholic Church.

In fact I often point out that I admire the Catholic Church and disagree most vehemently with you on exactly those points where the Church also disagrees with you, most prominently Creationism (the Catholic Church supports the teaching of evolution and keeping science and religion separate) and attitude towards the Talmud (the Catholic Church teaches that Judaism must be respected and its holy writings not misrepresented).

In fact, my private blog even has a random entry just for the purpose of acknowledging Catholics as good people and asking G-d to bless the Pope:

http://web.mac.com/ajbrehm/Home/Blog/Entries/2008/6/18_Just_a_few_thoughts_on_the_(last)_Pope.html

I don't think I have ever seen you write a blog entry to prompte Judaism or co-existence with Judaism just for the love of other believers. (KFC regularly writes such articles!)

And for the Jewish readers (and others with the same kind of humour), here is an entry about the trinity:

http://web.mac.com/ajbrehm/Home/Blog/Entries/2008/8/10_When_G-d_Introduced_Monotheism.html

 

 

 

 

on Jan 08, 2009

Also after careful consideration I am starting to agree with Leauki that you are an anti-semite and might not even know it.

MM, Christianity is fundamentally Anti-Torah.  Christian's claim that Torah was done away with.  Thus does away with the Jews (who believe in Torah).  It doesn't have to even do with the 'CC is the only true church.'  Anti-Semitism began with the rejection of Torah. 

Whether Lula knows it or not, she cannot be a devout Catholic and NOT be anti-semetic.  The two simply cannot go hand in hand.  Catholics and Christians only control how much anti-semitism manifests out of their actions/words.

 

on Jan 08, 2009

How many Jews have to fight against communist and communist-allied forces to prove to you that Judaism is opposed to Stalin's communism?

My wife's Grandfather was a Polish Jew thrown into political prison under Stalin's dictatorship.  This is just one person and a Jew who opposed Stalin's Communism.  At least he survived opposing by changing his last name in prison.

 

on Jan 08, 2009

MM, Christianity is fundamentally Anti-Torah. Christian's claim that Torah was done away with. Thus does away with the Jews (who believe in Torah). It doesn't have to even do with the 'CC is the only true church.' Anti-Semitism began with the rejection of Torah.

Not all Christians reject the Torah. Many Christians believe that the Torah is the Jewish holy book and was not replaced but made more perfect by the "New Testament".

 

Whether Lula knows it or not, she cannot be a devout Catholic and NOT be anti-semetic. The two simply cannot go hand in hand. Catholics and Christians only control how much anti-semitism manifests out of their actions/words.

Catholicism changes. They have a process for changing their principles. I don't think the current Catholic Church is anti-Semitic. (Individual Catholics can be, of course.)

 

on Jan 08, 2009

Adventure-Dude

How many Jews have to fight against communist and communist-allied forces to prove to you that Judaism is opposed to Stalin's communism?
My wife's Grandfather was a Polish Jew thrown into political prison under Stalin's dictatorship.  This is just one person and a Jew who opposed Stalin's Communism.  At least he survived opposing by changing his last name in prison.

 

Stories like that are very common indeed.

It should do Lula some good to research the subject a bit (unless she uses her usual sources).

 

 

on Jan 08, 2009

LULA POSTS:

The Old Testament faith fulfilled its glorious mission in and through the birth of the Son of David, Jesus Christ. He caused the Jewish Acorn to blossom forth into the glorious Oak, known as the Catholic Church. The Catholic Chruch is the light in this dark world.

MM POSTS:

you see this IS YOUR OPINION, there are billions of people on the planet that think Catholics are the BLIGHT of the world not the LIGHT, I think all religion is a BLIGHT including Catholicism, Which Is why I said the only good think Stalin did was ban religion.

Well, it's my opinon that when you say Catholicsim is the blight of the world and banning it (religion) is good comes from lack of knowledge of Jewish history and Scripture.  

OK...and for LW, putting aside the Acorn and the Oak...the Catholic Chruch may be called the Jewish Chruch glorified...it's a Chruch of converts and descendants of converts. First came Christ, the Jew of Jews, then came the Apostles, all Jews, then came the thousands of first members of the CC, all Jews, after which came the converts from among the Gentiles. In fact there would not have been a Catholic Chruch were it not for the Jews. So, as a Catholic, by being incorporated into the Mustical Body of the Messias, I am a member of the Spiritual society that originally belonged in its entirety to the children of Isreal.

 

Also after careful consideration I am starting to agree with Leauki that you are an anti-semite and might not even know it.

To understand anti-Semiticism, let's go back to the Protocols of Zion. The circulation of those viscious document was no doubt a sin against charity...love of neighbor. A Catholic cannot be anti-Semitic becasue Abraham is called our Patriarch, our ancestor, and anti_Semiticism is incompaticle with the thought and sublime reality expressed in Catholicism. It is a movement in which Catholics can have no part whatsoever. Spiritually we are Semites.

 

 

on Jan 08, 2009

It's a Church of converts and descendants of converts.

It's a church of Europeans with very few Jewish members. Most Jewish converts to Christianity become Protestants.

Catholicism is a European religion. The vast majority of Catholic traditions have non-Jewish roots.

 

on Jan 08, 2009

Not all Christians reject the Torah. Many Christians believe that the Torah is the Jewish holy book and was not replaced but made more perfect by the "New Testament".

Really, I don't know of very many 'Christians' that are Torah Observant. 

Let me also clarify.  Christians may not reject the Torah as the Jewish Holy Book but they reject the application to their lives EVENTHOUGH it is contained in the book of their belief system.  This is the rejection I am speaking about.

on Jan 08, 2009

Really, I don't know of very many 'Christians' that are Torah Observant. 

Why should non-Jewish Christians be Torah-observant?

 

Let me also clarify.  Christians may not reject the Torah as the Jewish Holy Book but they reject the application to their lives EVENTHOUGH it is contained in the book of their belief system.  This is the rejection I am speaking about.

But Torah is only Jewish law, not universal law. Zoroastrians and Muslims likewise believe that the Torah was given to the Jews by G-d to be Jewish law but obviously they (being non-Jews) don't live by it.

I can believe in British law yet follow Irish law if I'm not British; certainly.

 

on Jan 08, 2009

Adventure-Dude
How many Jews have to fight against communist and communist-allied forces to prove to you that Judaism is opposed to Stalin's communism?My wife's Grandfather was a Polish Jew thrown into political prison under Stalin's dictatorship.  This is just one person and a Jew who opposed Stalin's Communism.  At least he survived opposing by changing his last name in prison. 

Sadly many Jews that came to America also changed their name when they arrived at Ellis Island.

on Jan 08, 2009

I can believe in British law yet follow Irish law if I'm not British; certainly.

I don't find that a good example.


Using your example it would be more of, you living in Britian and abiding by the rules in France while considering yourself a citizen of Britian.  While there are most likely rules that overlap but there will be laws that don't.

If you note Lula's comment she suggests that they are spiritually one with Israel (#108).  Christians also believe that they are grafted in as G-D's chosen (usually as Gentile).  


This is why it would be more like you walking into Britian, demanding citizenship but choosing your own rules.

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