It's the Roman Catholics that I have the most personal experience with when it comes to bigotry about me being a JEW, remember it took 2000 years for the Roman Catholics to "forgive" the Jews for their part in Christs crucifixion, To condemn an entire religion for over 2000 years for the actions of several Jews worried about losing their own personal power shows a tremendous amount of hatred and bigotry.

Does "religion" include modern day Judaism?

ALL RELIGION, PERIOD. That plain enough?

This comment reveals the attempt of Reform Rabbis to throw off Jewish responsibility for the crufixation of Christ has filtered down to you. Do with it what we may, not Catholics, no one has the power to make historic truth unhistoric.  

As "for the actions of several Jews" 2,000 years ago....those actions include some things that should be taken into account.

First, when Pilate asked, Shall I crucify your King?", the chief priests unanimously answered "We (the Jewish people) have no king, but Caesar." By this, the heads of the Jewish nation, the Sanhedrin, and the official guardians and exponents of the Jewish religion officially renounced  the honor of being the chosen people of God and merge and incorporate their nation into the Roman Empire. Second, after this, Pilate seeing that he couldn't prevail washed his hands of it, saying, "I am innocent of the blood of this just man. Look you to it"...and the Jews loudly declared, "His blood be upon us, and upon our children!" Here, they themselves were willing to accept full responsibility for the murder of Christ and were glad to pay this price for the favorable judgment of Pilate's court.  

This is when, 2000 years ago, the Jews invited upon themselves the curse of malediction and death over the blessing of life with the saving Blood of Christ.  Read Psalm 108:18-19. It is horrifying to think of the details of the actual fulfillment of the curse they forced upon themselves. Have you ever read the history of what happened in 70AD? Jesus was siezed in Mt. Olivet, and in the same place was encamped the Roman legion when Jerusalem was stormed by the armies of Titus. Jesus was sold for 30 pieces of silver and after the fall of Jerusalem, Jews in detachments of 30 were sold as slaves each band going for 1/6th of a piece of silver. The Jews caused Jesus to be stripped and scourged by the romans and the very same Roman soldiers stripped the Jews who fled Jerusalem in multitudes bound them to trees and cut them open in search for gold. The Jews had mocked Jesus and put a white garment on Him, and Titus dressed 2,000 Jews as fools and exposed them in the Roman ampitheater for sport of the Roman people. The Jews demanded of Pilate, Crucify Him, crucify Him, and the demand of the Roman soldiers was to crucify nearly every day 500 around the walls of Jerusalem so much so that wood was wanting to make crosses. The whole Jewish people and priests at Christ's trial cried out, His blood be upon us and when Jerusalem was taken, the blood of Jews ran in streams down the Temple stairs before it was taken down stone by stone. And ever since the Jewish people have wandered around without priest, without altar and without sacrifice.

This is the literal fulfillment of the prophecy of Osee 3:3-4, "The children of Isreal shall sit many days without KIng, and without prince, and without sacrifice, and without altar, and without ephod, and without theraphim. And after this the children of Isreal shall return and shall seek the Lord their God, and David their king, and they shall fear the Lord, and His goodness in the last days."

Again, Jesus had won the love of a multitude of Jews and the hatred of Him was from the Jewish leaders who had expelled Him from the Synagogue. It was they who gave Jesus over to the civil authorities, the Romans to be put to death. These Jewish authorities were directly guilty and morally responsible of turning the multitude into the death cry. Therefore, the decree of crucifixation came from the Roman state, whose guilt Jesus Himself recognized as secondary when He said, "He that hath delieverd Me to thee hath the greater sin."

Nobody can rightly say that it is hatred or bigotry of Jews that prompts Catholics to insist upon this historic fact as there is no historic doubt upon that score. Noone can rightly claim that the Gospel truth turns Catholic love of the Messias into hatred and bigotry against Jews. On Good Friday, the day of all days when Catholics recall the death of their Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, the priest at the altar chants with love in his heart the prayer to Almighty God that Jews everywhere may see that Jesus is the Messias.

MM, please by assurred once for all, the Jews of today are not held guilty of the act of the Jewish court in condemning Christ to death. They are guilty in so far as they will not recognize Jesus as He proved Himself to be ....the Messias...just as Catholics hold themselves individually responsible for morally crucifying Christ every time they sin.  So, if any Catholic ever says such a thing to you again, then show them this and remind them of their own responsibility.

an incredibly damning indictment considering there's no reliable evidence to support any of it whatsoever.  no state records--roman, jewish or any other kind--of these events are available nor is there any reliable indication we've yet to locate them. 

all you can offer is so-called sacred scripture, the origins and provenance of which cannot be established past the point of "he said, she said" hearsay of which each and every word seems more likely than not to have been in some way conformed subjectively to the advantage of its sources.

in what way is condemnation on the basis of prophetic interpretation different from condemnation on the basis the appearance of chicken entrails (other than sparing some poor chicken its life and integrity)?

you should been a lawyer, thuthfully it is all hearsay.

Like kingbee points out this is all hearsay and slightly circumstantial, in todays court system it would get thrown out and Ponchus Pilate{sp?} would be found guilty of abuse of power.

What Jewish responsibility for the "crucifixation"?

You (the Romans) came to Israel and murdered a Jew. You have never forgiven the Jews for that.

And despite the fact that you claim that he was supposed to die for our sins, you regard his killing as a crime.

And to top it all off, you claim that your religion is all about forgiveness. You cannot even forgive others for YOUR crimes!

(Your) Christianity is the most ironic religion I know.

(And what does it have to do with Reform Judaism???)

I live among Catholics and none of them blame Jews for anything.

Lula is the only openly anti-Semitic "Catholic" I have ever met (although there are a few who share the usual anti-Semitism of almost everyone). She is in fact totally unlike any Catholic I know.

I don't know what experiences you have had with Catholics, but here in Ireland I have never seen anything but support for Judaism and Israel.

Hasidim? Really?

Perhaps you mean Haredim. I have run into several Haredim who at least seemed to look down other Jews, but I have never noticed any Hasidim among those.

Hasidim are about seeing the joy in Jewish observance and rituals. Other Haredim see following Jewish law as a duty, Hasidim see it as a joy. You often find Hasidim around the Jerusalem Old City trying to help other Jews (of any group) follow all the rituals correctly. They had out kippas and prayer books and give you vouchers for hostels and yeshivas.

Jesus failed to bring back all the Israelites into the Land of Israel and he didn't rebuild the Temple. He has proved himself NOT to be the Messiah of the Jews. He might be your Messiah, I don't know.

Jews are also _forbidden_, by G-d Himself, to worship a man. If Jesus is both a man and G-d, Jews would not be allowed to worshiphim (or the god who became a man). I don't know about the legality of deciding to believe and worship him anyway.

These are all excellent points, but I am sure she will find some obscure text in way of rebuttal, something along the line of the gospel of Goering

I might have things confused, but I got this information from a gal that lives in Israel.

I don't think all Israelis know the differences between the different sects and denominations.

Could be I got bad info. She was a Sephardic Jew and told me they were looked down on and explained why. So the information might have been tainted.