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How soon people forget.
Published on December 27, 2008 By Moderateman In Current Events

In a new national poll from Russia, Dictator and Mass murderer Joseph Stalin is in the running for the number one slot.

Remember now this man by conservative estimates slaughtered 25 million people and sent countless millions to slave labor camps {called Gulags}

The poll claims Stalin acted in a "rational" MANNER while in charge of Russia from 1928 to 1953, the thing most remembered was that Stalin "saved" the Russian people from Hitler, another mass murderer whos atrocities pale in comparrison to Stalin.

How soon people forget the midnight raids on homes where people disappeared, never to be seen again, where any form of free speech was instantly and severely stopped and the speaker either executed or sentenced as a political prisoner and sent to Siberia to work in SLAVE labor camps till they died.

The only comparrison I can make in an American way would be to have the BTK OR THE GREEN RIVER KILLER being declared the single best role model for children in the United States.

How sick is this?

Stalin's secret police were so feared that just the mention of them could tear households apart, the ruthlessness of the KGB far outstripped our own CIA.

When Russia disbanded the KGB the members simply used their knowledge to go Gangster, the Russian Mafiya is one of the most feared criminal organizations on the planet due to their training while in the KGB, they used their connections they had as spies to get them going and have never looked back and we have Joseph Stalin to thank for this legacy too.

Religion was repressed, this was probably the only GOOD thing Stalin did.


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on Dec 27, 2008

That is incredible.  The article even says that virtually every family was affected by his repression.  So you would think that all of the people being polled would know of their family history that someone they loved and cared about was murdered, tortured or imprisoned by this man. 

on Dec 27, 2008

Boudica
That is incredible.  The article even says that virtually every family was affected by his repression.  So you would think that all of the people being polled would know of their family history that someone they loved and cared about was murdered, tortured or imprisoned by this man. 

yup, shows you exactly how nuts the people of Russia are, how coyuld they even nominate him for such an honor is so far beyond my thinking it is just crazy to me.

on Dec 27, 2008

for centuries russia has been the equivalent of a horribly dysfunctional family headed by an outrageously abusive parent.  incomprehensible as it may be for those of us who weren't born into or raised in such an environment, it's not unusual for victims to love the monsters they call mom or dad.

life in russia befoe stalin was no picnic. most of russia and its people were property of the tsars. under stalin, russia became a major world power--an accomplishment which eluded every tsar no matter how ambitious.  on top of all that, i believe we all tend to forget the worst of the past and embellish our remembrances of the best. 

 

 playing on that has been as effective for putin as it was reagan.

on Dec 27, 2008

playing on that has been as effective for putin as it was reagan.

LOL....ok....

Anyways, this shows how backward the world really is.  But then again, the liberals keep telling me I need to care about what they think.

on Dec 27, 2008

 incomprehensible as it may be for those of us who weren't born into or raised in such an environment, it's not unusual for victims to love the monsters they call mom or dad.

I know many Russian Jews who for some reason escaped the environment.

Why exactly would it be difficult for a non-Jewish Russian to see through this?

T

on Dec 27, 2008

I know many Russian Jews who for some reason escaped the environment.

Why exactly would it be difficult for a non-Jewish Russian to see through this?

T

 

i've no idea why you feel that question relevant but lemme reply to it with a couple questions of my own.

 

how many russian jews remain?  what prevented  them from leaving after the ussr imploded?  do they consider themselves essentially russian or essentially jews?

are non-jewish russians (nearsighted or not) eligible for adoption by the state of israel?

 

on Dec 28, 2008

i've no idea why you feel that question relevant but lemme reply to it with a couple questions of my own.

I thought it was relevant because you argued that there is something in Russian society that forces them to accept totalitarian rulers as heroes.

I figured since that is not true at least for Russian Jews, it's just a matter of decision, not force.

 

how many russian jews remain?  what prevented  them from leaving after the ussr imploded?  do they consider themselves essentially russian or essentially jews?

There remain anywhere between a few hundred thousand and up to three million. Nobody knows. Some have left for Israel, some have left for Germany (which also grants citizenship to Jews), some have stayed.

Most of them consider themselves Jewish rather than Russian. In the Soviet Union people were organised according to nationality. You could be Russian, Ukrainian, Lithuanian, Jewish, or one of the other nationalities. (You could be more than one, I suppose.)

(Why would they consider themselves Russian?)

Each of the nationalities had their own territory, a member republic of the SU, one of the republics within Russia, or a territory or province. You didn't have to live in the territory assigned to you nationality. The Jewish territory was/is in eastern Siberia, bordering China or Mongolia. (Very few Jews live there. The official language is Yiddish.)

 

are non-jewish russians (nearsighted or not) eligible for adoption by the state of israel?

No.

 

on Dec 28, 2008

kingbee
for centuries russia has been the equivalent of a horribly dysfunctional family headed by an outrageously abusive parent.  incomprehensible as it may be for those of us who weren't born into or raised in such an environment, it's not unusual for victims to love the monsters they call mom or dad.life in russia befoe stalin was no picnic. most of russia and its people were property of the tsars. under stalin, russia became a major world power--an accomplishment which eluded every tsar no matter how ambitious.  on top of all that, i believe we all tend to forget the worst of the past and embellish our remembrances of the best.   playing on that has been as effective for putin as it was reagan.

OMG!!~! it's you!!! it's sooooooooooooooooo good to see your name again, what a great gift for Hanukkah-X-mas, new years

on Dec 28, 2008

Island Dog
playing on that has been as effective for putin as it was reagan.LOL....ok.... Anyways, this shows how backward the world really is.  But then again, the liberals keep telling me I need to care about what they think.

Yeh that happens to me too dog, they insist I must be converted to their cause or I will remain some kind of oddball.

on Dec 28, 2008

Leauki
 incomprehensible as it may be for those of us who weren't born into or raised in such an environment, it's not unusual for victims to love the monsters they call mom or dad.I know many Russian Jews who for some reason escaped the environment.Why exactly would it be difficult for a non-Jewish Russian to see through this?T

I believe all that waiting in breadline for stale bread over the years caused brain damage.

on Dec 28, 2008

I believe all that waiting in breadline for stale bread over the years caused brain damage.

From what I have heard (and I was sitting in the first row among the audience), Russian Jews were usually last in line.

 

on Dec 28, 2008

I believe all that waiting in breadline for stale bread over the years caused brain damage.From what I have heard (and I was sitting in the first row among the audience), Russian Jews were usually last in line. 

Not unusual for Jews to be shit on, no matter where they are, which is one reason I stay so heavily armed, some of my friends think I am paranoid, I say I am prepared for what ever happens, I believe anti-semitism is on the rise in America. I guarantee if they ever come for this Jew there will be a large body count before I am taken or killed.

on Dec 28, 2008

Moderateman
yup, shows you exactly how nuts the people of Russia are, how coyuld they even nominate him for such an honor is so far beyond my thinking it is just crazy to me.

People tend to be cooperative when you put a gun to their heads.

on Dec 28, 2008

IQofSpam
Moderatemancomment 2yup, shows you exactly how nuts the people of Russia are, how coyuld they even nominate him for such an honor is so far beyond my thinking it is just crazy to me.People tend to be cooperative when you put a gun to their heads.

Yup the move towards "democracy" has been killed by Putin, but what else would you expect by someone that was a leader of the old KGB? Once again Bush failed to recognize a real time threat to America. Bushes Judgment of Putin was so far off base that not only was he tricked by Putin, but he was shown to be a fool internationally.

on Dec 28, 2008

Bushes Judgment of Putin was so far off base that not only was he tricked by Putin, but he was shown to be a fool internationally.

What could he have done?

 

 

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