America has problems, but America is NOT THE PROBLEM!~

So Satan sitting in his home listening to the screams of the tormented with a smile on his face, decided the Jews were to close to G-d, and this really angered him, he had to find a way to divide the damned Jews, after all G-d decided they were his chosen people and what better target for his evil deeds than watering down the religion, Now Satan had great power, let us not forget that after all he was arch Angel, most high, one of the three named Angels that sat at G-ds side at one time.

So along comes this good man Jesus was his name, he had many good things to say and the people listened, so first Satan hardened the hearts of the Rabbis, made them jealous of Jesus and his huge following, then Satan allowed some minor so called miracles to happen, an easy task for one as powerful as Lucifer. Satan also knew of the prophecy of the Messiah, and he thought what a great idea if he could trick the Jews into believing that Jesus was the Messiah, he could one, break up the tribes of Israel, really anger G-d whom Lucifer hated beyond all things and of course lead people away from the one true faith of Judaism. Needless to say his plan worked the people of Israel {some} believed the Messiah had come, the Rabbis who Lucifer had tricked into believing this good man was a threat to their power played their part perfectly and had the Romans crucify Jesus {all part of the prophecy} Some years after the death of Jesus, Christianity was born, Jesus NEVER claimed to be a Christian, he was circumcised in the Jewish religion and took Bar mitzvah at 13 again following the Jewish religion. Never once did he or his disciples call what Jesus was preaching Christianity, what he was preaching was Judaism in it purest form, with stress on the 10 commandments as a way to live your life. Did this really happen? I have no Idea, but it is no more believable or unbelievable than Jesus being the Human Son of G-d. Meanwhile we Jews of the one true faith are still waiting for the Messiah to arrive and on that day there will be much celebrating, for we have waiting patiently a very long time for this to happen.


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on Oct 26, 2007
Show me the prophecy Jesus didn't fulfill, MM.
on Oct 26, 2007
(Citizen)JythierOctober 26, 2007 14:49:12


Show me the prophecy Jesus didn't fulfill, MM.


Prophecy is a set of things that are foretold, very easy for someone as powerful as Lucifer to rig. Remember I am a Jew to me Jesus does not meet the criteria for the Messiah. Not just me either Millions of Jews believe as I do.
on Oct 26, 2007
Which prophecy, MM? God said the Messiah would do a certain set of things, so you would recognize him. Do you think a God as powerful as ours would allow Satan to 'rig' someone to hit all of them? That would make God a liar, MM. God's not a liar.
on Oct 26, 2007
(Citizen)JythierOctober 26, 2007 15:05:29


Which prophecy, MM? God said the Messiah would do a certain set of things, so you would recognize him. Do you think a God as powerful as ours would allow Satan to 'rig' someone to hit all of them? That would make God a liar, MM. God's not a liar.


no G-d is never a liar, but he also said he would never interfere with Satan and his dealings with Man.
on Oct 26, 2007
I don't remember that bit of scripture, but I do remember a bit of scripture about God 'allowing' Job to be tested by Satan. I also know some NT stuff with the same theme but I am guessing that would not matter to you.
on Oct 26, 2007
(Citizen)JythierOctober 26, 2007 15:16:39


also know some NT stuff with the same theme


nope, never read the new testament, it is a book written by men, while the old was written by G-d {the first five books}
on Oct 26, 2007
You'd think Jews and Christians could get along...they believe in the same basic construct...maybe it really was a trick by Satan to further divide people and cause a whole shitstorm of trouble, because that's what it did.

Oh well...I'm just going to keep doing what I do: Trying to be a helpful person with minimal asshole behavior.

~Zoo
on Oct 26, 2007
I thought they were written by Moses.

Regardless, if you can't tell me which prophecy he didn't fulfill, you should ask your Rabbi about it. He should know, or at least have more time to investigate. Of course, if there IS one, I'm screwed.
on Oct 26, 2007
I don't feel we're not getting along here. Just having a friendly conversation.
on Oct 26, 2007
(Citizen)Zoologist03October 26, 2007 15:38:15


You'd think Jews and Christians could get along...they believe in the same basic construct...maybe it really was a trick by Satan to further divide people and cause a whole shitstorm of trouble, because that's what it did.

Oh well...I'm just going to keep doing what I do: Trying to be a helpful person with minimal asshole behavior.


that's the ticket zoo, I guess I just had my fill of folks telling me I am going to hell because I will not accept Jesus as my lord and savior, hence me being a real first class prick and writng this.
on Oct 26, 2007
(Citizen)JythierOctober 26, 2007 15:43:12


I don't feel we're not getting along here. Just having a friendly conversation.


that we are.
on Oct 26, 2007
I guess I just had my fill of folks telling me I am going to hell


I think everyone does something that someone else condemns them to hell for...that's what really pisses me off about Christianity in general, all this judgement and hatred for others that don't fit the cardboard cutout that they have in their warped little minds.

And I'm a freakin' Christian.

Ghandi said it best, I think:

"I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ."

~Zoo
on Oct 26, 2007
Zoologist03October 26, 2007 16:20:38


that's what really pisses me off about Christianity in general, all this judgement and hatred for others that don't fit the cardboard cutout that they have in their warped little minds.

And I'm a freakin' Christian.

Ghandi said it best, I think:

"I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ."


I could not have said it better zoo, and I truly thank you for saying this, it has so much more meaning coming from a Christian.
on Oct 26, 2007
I could not have said it better zoo, and I truly thank you for saying this, it has so much more meaning coming from a Christian.


...and my Christian brethren will condemn me for saying it.

~Zoo
on Oct 26, 2007
To hell with ye!

Seriously though, it's true. Some, most, a lot of christians are unlike Christ.
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