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Here's What America does
Published on May 11, 2005 By Moderateman In North Korea
It seems like the RED Chinese will not help curb their running maddog, North Korea, I mean what do they care if they go nucular?

The North Koreans missles will be pointed at Japan and America so what does China get for stopping this madman jong from being a threat?

When will America see that China does not give a flying fig if america falls? They will simply market their goods to Europe, land of cowards.

Here is what America Needs to do, Offer to share our nucular technology, with Japan, Tiawan and South Korea, not give them the
Know how to make nukes, give them nukes and the system to deliver them.

Now China has something to lose, big time.
China HATES japan and has never forgiven the Japanses for WW2, The Japanese feel the same about the chinese.

Now 3 countries surrounding China will be armed with nukes, China will not like that, having these countries aiming missles at them as well as at their lapdog,. North Korea.

So If we state our intentions to arm these 3 traditional enemies of China, China will "see" the wisdom of keeping nukes OUT of North Koreas hands. Period. Self Preservation a huge Push to some common sense.


Ps, will post in a day or 2 about todays dr. visit, >

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on May 11, 2005
This scenario sounds like the nuke version of "an armed society is a polite society".
on May 11, 2005
Reply By: thatoneguyinslcPosted: Wednesday, May 11, 2005This scenario sounds like the nuke version of "an armed society is a polite society".


kinda, mostly it gives China an "incentive" to help curb North Koreas nuke aspirations.
on May 11, 2005
Truth be told, I do not favor gaining help through threats. But I do recognize that it is neccessary in some cases, and that China is no friend to the U.S.
on May 11, 2005
I think, though it could be diplomatic suicide, would be ideal, be a asian cold war, and could result in a few pot shots. It could force each nation to make more of an effort in negotiations, it would definantly make europe S**T their pants....
on May 12, 2005
apparently yall have forgotten the implications of a nuclear war anywhere in the world. even if there was some way to prevent the rest of the world from being slowly poisoned, do you really wanna go back to the days when everyone expected we were gonna be vaporized sooner or later?

it aint gonna scare the north koreans anyway. they're the least likely to get hurt badly of all parties involved.

if china isn't that important to the process why is bush still insisting on 6-nation negotiations?
on May 12, 2005
Good point King.
on May 12, 2005
One it would violate almost every treaty in existance, so it will never happen.  And 2, while South Korea  might take you up on the offer, Japan never will.  And I dont trust South Korea to be a stable place in perpetuity.
on May 12, 2005
3 by NJforever
Wednesday, May 11, 2005


Truth be told, I do not favor gaining help through threats. But I do recognize that it is neccessary in some cases, and that China is no friend to the U.S


neither do I nj, but all pleas to the chinese and diplomacy with the north koreas have failed to yeild a damn thing.
on May 12, 2005
4 by Lucas Bailey
Wednesday, May 11, 2005


think, though it could be diplomatic suicide, would be ideal, be a asian cold war, and could result in a few pot shots. It could force each nation to make more of an effort in negotiations, it would definantly make europe S**T their pants....


but it's not europe negociating with the N.K. its russia , japan, south K, china and america, as usual europe is sitting on the sidelines.
on May 12, 2005
#5 by kingbee
Thursday, May 12, 2005


apparently yall have forgotten the implications of a nuclear war anywhere in the world. even if there was some way to prevent the rest of the world from being slowly poisoned, do you really wanna go back to the days when everyone expected we were gonna be vaporized sooner or later?

it aint gonna scare the north koreans anyway. they're the least likely to get hurt badly of all parties involved.

if china isn't that important to the process why is bush still insisting on 6-nation negotiations?


China controls n.k. oil. food. china can easly MAKE nk behave , but they have nothing to gain. By arming some traditional enemies of china, NOW they have something to lose.
on May 12, 2005
6 by thatoneguyinslc
Thursday, May 12, 2005


Good point King.


no it's NOT a good point, see my answer above.
on May 12, 2005
#7 by Dr. Guy
Thursday, May 12, 2005


One it would violate almost every treaty in existance, so it will never happen. And 2, while South Korea might take you up on the offer, Japan never will. And I dont trust South Korea to be a stable place in perpetuity.


since the north Koreas have already violated all treaties, except the ceasefire of 1953,whats to lose doc? DO you want nukes in the hands of terrorist< because surely as I breath, thats where they will go if n.k. goes nuke.
on May 12, 2005
#7 by Dr. Guy
Thursday, May 12, 2005


One it would violate almost every treaty in existance, so it will never happen. And 2, while South Korea might take you up on the offer, Japan never will. And I dont trust South Korea to be a stable place in perpetuity.


since the north Koreas have already violated all treaties, except the ceasefire of 1953,whats to lose doc? DO you want nukes in the hands of terrorist< because surely as I breath, thats where they will go if n.k. goes nuke.
on May 12, 2005
It's a misconception that the Chinese and the North Koreans are pals. They basically hate each other and always have. They barely held their relations together during the Korean war, and afterward they were a pawn between the Soviets and the Chinese.

They may rely on Chinese aid, but I think their aid relations with South Korea are about as good as they are with the Chinese, which is to say relatively abysmal. There was a quote I thought funny that said some Chinese official had accused "Beloved Leader" of being the only fat man in Korea. In reality millions have starved there in recent decades.

If you look into it there is a cultural war going on with the Chinese over their shared history as well. I think the Chinese would be perfectly happy just to annex the Korean penninsula and have it over with, and the Koreans know that. They most certainly aren't rooting for the health and prosperity of the North Koreans.
on May 12, 2005
Reply By: BakerStreetPosted: Thursday, May 12, 2005It's a misconception that the Chinese and the North Koreans are pals


I for one never called them pals or anything else I called the north koreans China lapdog, and that is aptly put, if china completely turned their back on N.K. , N.K. would fold.
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