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They will hand Hillary the Presidency
Published on October 24, 2007 By Moderateman In Politics

The hypocrisy of the religious right knows no boundaries. They insinuate themselves in the Republican party like a cancer invades the body of a healthy man, slowly they rot the body from within. They are the equal of the lunatic far left in every way, just as nuts, just as damaging to the American process. Hey Religious right, not everyone is a Christian, not everyone wants to be a Christian, you do more to push away conservative thinkers than any other part of the republican party with your ridiculous demands.

While I admit you have a fair amount of power in the party, to say you will not support the apparent front runner Rudy Giuliani because of his pro-choice stance shows how shallow you really are, all you do by this is hand the Presidency to Hillary, who is also pro-choice BTW, this is like cutting off your nose because something smells bad, an incredibly stupid things to do.

Your actions make me ashamed to be a Republican. Your smug faces make me want to slap them. Your holier than thou attitude does not reflect what I know of Jesus the man, it reflects someone so full of themselves and the power they wield.


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on Oct 27, 2007
for the record, lula, the show Xena was, ostensibly set in ancient Greece (the name Xena is Greek). Now, I my have some memory problems, but I'm fairly certain Alexander the Great never did battle with the Knights of the Round Table.

But carry on. You are obviously a much more scholarly historian than I.
on Oct 27, 2007
How about you, MM, what's your stance on abortion on demand?
Reply By: lulapilgrimPosted: Saturday, October 27, 2007
Ummm I am pro-Life. period.
on Oct 27, 2007
Ummm I am pro-Life. period.


But, you disdain pro-life, Christian folks saying

They are the equal of the lunatic far left in every way, just as nuts, just as damaging to the American process.

on Oct 27, 2007

Gideon posts:
for the record, lula, the show Xena was, ostensibly set in ancient Greece (the name Xena is Greek). Now, I my have some memory problems, but I'm fairly certain Alexander the Great never did battle with the Knights of the Round Table.



Oh, stop nit-picking Gideon, I said from the beginning:

Although not a perfect example, the TV show Zena comes to mind. Pagan barbarism of every type going on.


Zena does show paganistic barbarism.

I've made my point medievial Catholicism HASN'T killed more people than those under the banners of both medievial Muhammadism (Islam) and pagan barbarism.

In our own times, Islam has been revived; Mohammadism Islamists are killing innocent people. In our age, the paganism of ancient times is revived after a welcome respite from it for almost a millennium.

The Catholic Church stands against both jihad by the sword and the neo-paganism of the Secular/Atheist humanist's culture of death.



on Oct 27, 2007
lulapilgrimOctober 27, 2007 14:23:34


Ummm I am pro-Life. period.


But, you disdain pro-life, Christian folks saying


They are the equal of the lunatic far left in every way, just as nuts, just as damaging to the American process.


Lula, I disdain people first that read stuff that is not there, second I disdain people that think one single issue is enough to disqualify someone form office when he has NO POWER over said issue {abortion} thirdly would you care to pore over my entire 850 plus articles and find some statement where I disparage Christians for BEING PRO-LIFE,This is a non issue and I have never said nor intimated said statement, but this is what I have learned what to expect, people that disagree to read things that are not there, to believe in their heart of hearts somehow, in someway I disrespect Christians, when I am married to one.
on Oct 27, 2007
Oh, stop nit-picking Gideon,


It's not nit picking, lula. While I respect your Catholic faith, I am tired of you portraying the rest of the world as being a bunch of hedonistic murderers, with only the Catholic church to save them. In even REFERRING to "Xena" as an example, you lose all credibility, as it is set almost two millenia prior to the era you're trying to portray as being completely black save for the light of the Vatican.

The reason it's not nitpicking? Because a whole lot of "witches" were hanged using the very myths you are trying to portray as fact!
on Oct 27, 2007
(Citizen)Gideon MacLeishOctober 27, 2007 14:53:33


Oh, stop nit-picking Gideon,


It's not nit picking, lula. While I respect your Catholic faith, I am tired of you portraying the rest of the world as being a bunch of hedonistic murderers, with only the Catholic church to save them. In even REFERRING to "Xena" as an example, you lose all credibility, as it is set almost two millenia prior to the era you're trying to portray as being completely black save for the light of the Vatican.

The reason it's not nitpicking? Because a whole lot of "witches" were hanged using the very myths you are trying to portray as fact!


why you dirty low down picker of nits! of all the low people on the planet pickers of nits are the lowests. heh heh

Anytime you disagree with a fundie of any religion, they are right, you are wrong, period. there is no middle ground!
on Oct 27, 2007
they are right, you are wrong, period. there is no middle ground!


When it comes to beliefs, aren't we all like that? The only difference being if one is trying to impose their beliefs on you, or just content to know their beliefs are right.

Beliefs cannot be argued, for they are based on faith, not facts.
on Oct 27, 2007
GuyOctober 27, 2007 15:30:44


When it comes to beliefs, aren't we all like that? The only difference being if one is trying to impose their beliefs on you, or just content to know their beliefs are right.

Beliefs cannot be argued, for they are based on faith, not facts.


My belief is their are many paths to G-d. Yes it based on faith, but it is all encompassing, not to the exclusion of anyone.
on Oct 27, 2007
MM posts:
Ummm I am pro-Life. period.


Lula posts: But, you disdain pro-life, Christian folks saying

They are the equal of the lunatic far left in every way, just as nuts, just as damaging to the American process.



would you care to pore over my entire 850 plus articles and find some statement where I disparage Christians for BEING PRO-LIFE,


I don't have to look any further than this article to which I am responding. The proof that you disdain and disparage pro-life Christians and their attempt to stand for life as Dr. Dobson has is right here.

These are your words that were written why? Because a pro-life Christian man, Dr.James Dobson, came out in public and told all he would not support Rudy Guilani's abortionism.

And for that pro-life Christians got verbally tarred and feathered by you here on this page....

The hypocrisy of the religious right


They insinuate themselves in the Republican party like a cancer invades the body of a healthy man, slowly they rot the body from within.


They are the equal of the lunatic far left in every way, just as nuts, just as damaging to the American process.


Hey Religious right, .... with your ridiculous demands.


So, according to Dr.Dobson's pro-life stance was a "ridiculous demand". And you say you have never disparaged Christians FOR BEING PRO-LIFE!!

you have ...power ...to say you will not support ...Rudy Giuliani because of his pro-choice stance shows how shallow you really are,


So, MM, according to you, becasue Dr.Dobson will not support Guiliani, he's showing his shallowness. And you say you have never disparaged Christians FOR BEING PRO-LIFE!

Your entire article is nothing other than the belittling of pro-life Christians and that MM is the truth and nothing but the truth.


I disdain people that think one single issue is enough to disqualify someone form office when he has NO POWER over said issue {abortion}


Wake up, MMan. The President has plenty of power over the abortion issue. He carries alot of weight in getting good bills passed and the power of the veto for bad ones. He recommends all the federal judges. He also has the power to appoint pro-life cabinet members and heads of powerful committees. Pres. Bush has just recently appointed a woman who has full reign of the dollars that will be either be withheld or go towards abstinence education.

The innocent, defenseless child in the womb loses with Rudy as President as Rudy hasn't the courage to defend his right to life.
on Oct 27, 2007
Maybe we should just let our religions fight it out: WWW Link

~Zoo
on Oct 27, 2007

Reply By: Zoologist03Posted: Saturday, October 27, 2007
Maybe we should just let our religions fight it out: WWW Link

Nah Sabrina pretty much slammed the door on all this bullshit anyways in my latest barb in the side of Christians https://www.joeuser.com/index.asp?AID=166095 Since Sabrina supplied plenty of proof the Christians here have fled the other blog in droves.

 

How's this Lula, you think what you want of me and I will think you are a hypocrite practicing a false religion that exists around a Man that is a JEW, that never called himself anything but a simple JEW.

on Oct 27, 2007
Your entire article is nothing other than the belittling of pro-life Christians and that MM is the truth and nothing but the truth.


That's how I feel too MM and the reason why I've said very little here. While I haven't read every response by all I get the same feeling as Lula does.

I think for pro-life Christians we're in a quandry here. Both candidates mentioned here do not represent us. Yet, as MM, I think is saying is we should get behind the "lesser" of two evils. If we don't vote for Rudy...if he is the candidate to go against Hillary, then we might as well give her the vote. And while he's bad enough, she's pure evil (in many minds) so we should vote for the one who will do the least damage.

I would like to believe that Rudy, and perhaps Hillary, won't even be there and am hoping that we won't have to choose between these two at all and that this whole conversation is a moot one. Who knows?

Maybe this conversation will be renewed again only this time we'll be talking about Obama and Huckabee!! I've already gone on record tho that It's going to be Hillary and Huckabee. We'll know soon enough



on Oct 27, 2007
Citizen)KFC Kickin For ChristOctober 27, 2007 19:35:18


hon, unless pushed I have been nothing but kind to you and Lula, staying out of anything that could be construed as negative towards Christians, but when I get pushed and Lula has been pushing and pushing hard I tend to push back, and can even get downright mean. If I offended you KFC in anyway I am deeply sorry, but I stand by my thoughts about this article, Maybe I could have written it kinder, But I am not a master writer, never will be, I write from emotion.
on Oct 27, 2007
How's this Lula, you think what you want of me and I will think you are a hypocrite practicing a false religion that exists around a Man that is a JEW, that never called himself anything but a simple JEW.




i am not so sure that he ever called himself a Jew. not sure but don't think so.


he was however a Jew. that encouraged others to worship god through himself.
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