The Things an Eighteen Year Old Can and Can't do

Let there be booze!

Published on May 14, 2007 By Moderateman In Philosophy

An Eighteen year old can, Marry, have children, go to work, Raise children. look out for their welfare.

An eighteen year old can operate heavy machinery, Drive a car, Climb tall buildings walk on a thin piece of iron to weld it together.

An eighteen year old can go to war, die for his country, carry deadly weapons in war and in peace.

Operate helicopters, repair them too.

Vote for the President, their Senator, their representative in the house, the Mayor of the city they live in, the Governor of the state they reside in.

In other words they have every right and responsibility a 21 year old, a 30 year old, a 50 year old , a 90 year old person has except for one thing.

SIMPLY THEY CANNOT BELLY up to a bar and have a beer if they want one. I find this insane, demeaning to them and downright silly to deny a returning hero from a war, the right to have a beer with his father in a bar to celebrate his safe return, all because he is 17, 18, 19 or 20 years of age!

Comments (Page 1)

Texas Wahine

on May 14, 2007

When I turned 21 I had a husband, a 3 year old, 3 jobs (part-time), 3 years of college education, and a baby on the way.

I think I coulda used a drink. LOL.

(Actually, the first time I bought alcohol I was 6 months pregnant and I bought a six pack of beer for my 20 year old husband)

Poison5

on May 14, 2007

yup It is pretty stupid.

Poison5

on May 14, 2007

oops double post

Moderateman

on May 14, 2007

Texas WahineMay 14, 2007 15:13:10

was adrian in the army then? Had he been to Iraq?

Moderateman

on May 14, 2007

(Citizen)Poison5May 14, 2007 15:35:29

yup It is pretty stupid.

stupid to the extreme.

Texas Wahine

on May 14, 2007

No, he's only been in 4 years (recently aced the board for SSG, too, woohoo).

Back then he was just working, going to college, being a husband, and being a daddy. In recent years he has become quite the fan of beer. LOL.

just john

on May 14, 2007

I live in Louisiana and up until 7 or so years ago an 18 year old could drink legally but by law they could not purchase said alcohol. I have seen what an 18 year old who can legally drink does and it really isn't all that different from what a 21 year old does. They go to the bar a lot, drink way too much and usually end up behind the wheel of a car because they are invincible.

The difference though is that usually by 21 most of them have it out of their system. They have learned to drink more responsibly.

When I first started drinking outside of my home I was reckless. There were only two ways to be... sober and way too drunk. It didn't matter what my age I was. I was still going to go through the stupid stage.

Sean Conners aka SConn1

on May 14, 2007

i'll sign the petition to change the law...that's a belief i've had since i was underage (19+years ago)

i did hear years back tho,....that a soldier can buy a drink legally on a base with such a place....any truth to that?

Texas Wahine

on May 14, 2007

When Adrian was home between Afghanistan and Iraq (and before we got pregnant with Izzy) we would sometimes drink on Saturday nights while watching SNL (kids in bed).

Once he got a call from some of his Soldiers asking him to come pick them up because they were in Honolulu and drunk.

He had to tell them, sorry, I've been drinking. Call a cab or get a hotel.

We drink at home, LOL.

I guess it was good the guys didn't just drive drunk. Then again, I doubt they had a car.

Texas Wahine

on May 14, 2007

Umm, no. No truth to that.

Sean Conners aka SConn1

on May 14, 2007

Umm, no. No truth to that.

i heard this about 20 years ago (give or take) but i did a lil research, and came up with this that supports it...

DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE REGULATIONSALLOW MEMBERS OF THE ACTIVE MILI-TARY WHO ARE UNDER21TO CONSUME AL-COHOL IN CONTROLLED SITUATIONS.And what about this “Old Enough to Fight…Old Enough toDrink” argument? Well, the fact is, if your child has volun-teered to serve in the military, when the going gets tough, thereis a good chance he or she will be allowed to have a drink.In the "old days" anyone on active military duty could consumealcohol on military installations, regardless of the legal drinkingage off-base.However, in the mid-80’s federal law waschanged requiring military installation commanders to adopt thesame drinking age as the state the military base is located in.At all oversees military installations, the drinking age is 18unless international treaties or agreements mandate a higherage. So if your child is risking his or her life overseas, andthere is no treaty prohibiting alcohol on base, he or she maydrink at 18.In addition, the commander of a military installation may waivethe drinking age requirements state-side, if such commanderdetermines that the exemption is justified by special circum-stances. Special circumstances are those infrequent, non-routinemilitary occasions when an entire unit, as a group, marks at amilitary installation a uniquely military occasion such as theconclusion of arduous military duty or the anniversary of theestablishment of a military service or organization. The eventmust be held on a military installation. The commander is re-quired to ensure that appropriate controls are in place to preventendangering Military Service members or the surrounding com-munity.Therefore, the fact that an 18-year-old can serve in the militarydoes not negate all the other reasons the drinking age shouldremain at 21 for those who choose not to volunteer for such adangerous assignment.

the page was a PDF, which i hate dealing with,,,if ya wanna check it out, go here...
www.jocostop.org/PDF%20Files/STOP%20Newsetter%202006--pub%202003.pdf

Moderateman

on May 14, 2007

(Citizen)just johnMay 14, 2007 16:04:50Reply

I grew up in NYC and was real big for my age at 15, I even had a moustache, I use to bar hop all the time and never got asked for I.D.

Moderateman

on May 14, 2007

(Citizen)Sean Conners aka SConn1May 14, 2007 16:10:44

I was in the Marines in 1964 onward, I could not go to the E.M. club and drink legally. I have no idea what is happening now.

Moderateman

on May 14, 2007

(Citizen)Texas WahineMay 14, 2007 16:15:52

Once he got a call from some of his Soldiers asking him to come pick them up because they were in Honolulu and drunk.

He had to tell them, sorry, I've been drinking. Call a cab or get a hotel.

that was smart of Adrian, {for someone in the Army that is} heh heh heh

Moderateman

on May 14, 2007

Sean Conners aka SConn1May 14, 2007 16:31:34

DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE REGULATIONSALLOW MEMBERS OF THE ACTIVE MILI-TARY WHO ARE UNDER21TO CONSUME AL-COHOL IN CONTROLLED SITUATIONS. And what about this “Old Enough to Fight…Old Enough to Drink” argument? Well, the fact is, if your child has volunteered to serve in the military, when the going gets tough, there is a good chance he or she will be allowed to have a drink. In the "old days" anyone on active military duty could consume alcohol on military installations, regardless of the legal drinking age off-base. However, in the mid-80’s federal law was changed requiring military installation commanders to adopt the same drinking age as the state the military base is located in.At all oversees military installations, the drinking age is 18unless international treaties or agreements mandate a higher age. So if your child is risking his or her life overseas, and there is no treaty prohibiting alcohol on base, he or she may drink at 18.In addition, the commander of a military installation may waive the drinking age requirements state-side, if such commander determines that the exemption is justified by special circumstances. Special circumstances are those infrequent, non-routine military occasions when an entire unit, as a group, marks at a military installation a uniquely military occasion such as the conclusion of arduous military duty or the anniversary of the establishment of a military service or organization. The event must be held on a military installation. The commander is required to ensure that appropriate controls are in place to prevent endangering Military Service members or the surrounding community. Therefore, the fact that an 18-year-old can serve in the military does not negate all the other reasons the drinking age should remain at 21 for those who choose not to volunteer for such a dangerous assignment.

the page was a PDF, which i hate dealing with,,,if ya wanna check it out, go here...
www.jocostop.org/PDF%20Files/STOP%20Newsetter%202006--pub%202003.pdf

that's real interesting, but way after my time { I feel so old} shit I am old.

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