Whatta Bunch o Boolshid!

Published on March 1, 2006 By Moderateman In Blogging

Long ago I stopped playing the if I am mad at someone, it means you as my friend/brother/sister/wife/husband MUST BE mad at them too.

What is this grade school? Obviously this is another article about little whip, I have always adored her, never cared for Simon at all,
While I will miss whip my world was whole long before I met her and will be whole long after she is gone.

As for Simon, who really cares if he is exiled? I sure do not, I have never bothered reading his stuff except for a couple times and that was out of loyalty to whip, I never commented on his blathering.

I am not here to make real world friends I have those, I am not here to please anyone except myself.

Brad can be a large pain, so what? so Can I.

Was brad wrong exiling Simon? who cares? Brads site, brads rules, you do not like it, leave, no one had nailed you to the caberfloor here.

Will I miss whip, yep, I remember once before when she split, I felt like my muse deserted me, but life went on, I even blogged about missing her, because I did, but life went on.

Sure I could have the instant satisfaction of telling admin to go fuck themselves, but there are consequences if I do, I will be gone and the world will go on.

I have been here for 16 months, the site was here, up and running before I came will be up and running after I leave.

I have never been elevated in status, so what? I have my own status it's called personal status, anything someone gives you is called vested status and can be taken as easy as given, NO ONE can Take my status because it is earned by me and kept by me.

I am old enough to understand people come, people go in my life and life goes on either way.

I refuse to play grade school games, if you think you are my cyberfriend and think I will leave here because YOU DO, get a clue, I won't, I will leave when I am damned good and ready or when brad tires of me. either way life goes on.

Comments (Page 2)

Moderateman

on Mar 01, 2006

Reply By: DeferencePosted: Wednesday, March 01, 2006Little Whip is at the top of that list. My relationship with her involves far more than our interaction here on JU...we have h

have no real friends here and I have already been through the meeting online friends gig, very seldom are people the same in real life as they are online. - ModerateManI have no real friends here? How many 'real' friends have you met in the world? Can you count them on two hands, one, or a single upraised middle finger?

I am blessed to have 4 real friends that to me is wealth beyond imagination.

Do you think you have real, as in will fly to your side in times of trouble? are there for you through thick and thin here on joeuser? If you do think so you really need to get out more.

Dr Guy

on Mar 01, 2006

Reply By: Trudygolightly
Posted: Wednesday, March 01, 2006

Everyone touches to some degree. The input and interaction here, regardless of it's source, is invaluable and connections have been made. One can go further down the path of nihlistic pontification and ask "what's it all for in the end as I can't see what will matter after" but I encourage you to discard that path - like, um, immediately.

Thank you for the wisdom and insightfulness, it was needed.

Sometimes it is better to slap a hand than to hold it.

Moderateman

on Mar 01, 2006

Reply By: TrudygolightlyPosted: Wednesday, March 01, 2006Everyone touches to some degree. The input and interaction here, regardless of it's source, is invaluable and connections have been made. One can go further down the path of nihlistic pontification and ask "what's it all for in the end as I can't see what will matter after" but I encourage you to discard that path - like, um, immediately.Thank you for the wisdom and insightfulness, it was needed.

sure I am touched by some here trudy, but friends? I think not. Maybe my definition of friedns is different than yours or deferences.

There are some personas here I am drawn to, tex ,dharma, forever serenity, the 2 docs a few more, but I do not fool myself into thinkng we are friends not in my sense of the word friendship.

Moderateman

on Mar 01, 2006

Reply By: Dr. GuyPosted: Wednesday, March 01, 2006Elie, Times change. People do. And some do not. I think there are some pro LW, and the anti ones are at her own chosing. She chose to flame others. Before they flamed her.it is her choice. And we must respect that much. I have yet to read an apriori LW flame. Just post ones.her choice, her rules, her life. Notice the common denominator. She chose.

I know she chose, I do not have to like her choice do I/? just respect it.

Dr Guy

on Mar 01, 2006

I know she chose, I do not have to like her choice do I/? just respect it.

That you did and that she did. I understand your respect, and admire it. We often dont like choices made of those we respect and love. But we do have to respect them once they are beyond our means to influence.

bakerstreet

on Mar 01, 2006

Not to be a doof, but I still don't understand what agreeing with Brad has to do with not standing beside Little Whip. I mean, if you think what Brad did was wrong, sure, but what if you don't?

How is supporting Brad's decision equate to doing an "about face" in terms of Little Whip? Unless we are of course required to agree with her, or at least not openly differ.

Deference

on Mar 01, 2006

Maybe my definition of friedns is different than yours or deferences. - Moderateman

My DEFinition of friends is changing, and those I thought friends and those I thought non-friends are allways in flux to their varying degrees of support. So I've thrown away the old definition that you may be ascribing to at this moment

Do you think you have real, as in will fly to your side in times of trouble? - Moderateman

There are friends that you have that are not allies. I promise.

Moderateman

on Mar 01, 2006

22 by Deference
Wednesday, March 01, 2006

There are friends that you have that are not allies. I promise.

MM hits the "wrong buzzer" eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!

My friends are my greataest allies def, we agree, we disagree but when push comes to shove we are ALWAYS THERE FOR EACH OTHER first and formost we are friends.

Moderateman

on Mar 01, 2006

#21 by BakerStreet
Wednesday, March 01, 2006

Not to be a doof, but I still don't understand what agreeing with Brad has to do with not standing beside Little Whip. I mean, if you think what Brad did was wrong, sure, but what if you don't?

you are not a doof, baker, I do not understand either, I learned eaarly here do not piss off brad, simple huh? you come to visit me in my home and you are playing by my rules, MY rules include no smoking in the house, no dope use, no drinking booze, you break one of those rules you are gone, that fast.

Moderateman

on Mar 01, 2006

For deference, I am 59 years old and have knocked aaround a bit, I know what friends are "TO ME" I will not argue what friends are to YOU, please show me the same respect.,

Texas Wahine

on Mar 01, 2006

Baker:

I guess I just wonder what you think you can do to support someone in this situation, Tex. When you say 'stand beside' it sounds like an 'us versus them' situation, and this really isn't one.

I wouldn't expect YOU to do anything, really. I think a lot of this got waaaay blown out of proportion (and a big chunk of that is my fault). I saw a lot of people who were tight with LW or at the very least were typically vocal supporters of her work and her as a person saying rude things about her husband and essentially congratulating Brad for banning him.

To me it was unexpected and disappointing.

I don't understand why people who consider themselves supporters and friends COULDN'T agree with Brad.

That's not really a problem, imo. What bothered me was the way it was carried out.

Tova:

Tex if LW woulda been banned for something I didn't think was justified I can honestly say I'd have followed....but she wasn't banned. She chose to follow her monster. None of us are so obliged. And really besides LW who among us has EoIC endeared himself to such a degree they would stop doing this, something they like, for him?

I don't think "following" is a requirement (nor is the disagreeing with the banishment). Publicly blasting her husband (at length, repeatedly), whom she dearly loves is pretty rough, don't you think?

My husband's done some shitty stuff. He's said some shitty stuff on here before (got banned for it too, haha). That doesn't mean I am OK with ANYONE on here taking a public accounting of the faults they perceive in him.

Deference:

Boy, would I like to have been a fly on the wall during those conversations.

Hmm. Some roll easy.

That's disappointing to me. Perhaps I am just too naive.

MM:

There are some personas here I am drawn to, tex

No persona here.

dharmagrl

on Mar 01, 2006

I consider Sabrina a friend. She and I have been through a lot, and we too have had many conversations away from JU. She knows some of my secrets. I know some of hers. She's my friend.

I consider her husband an acquaintance. He and I have talked occasionally. I don't know his secrets, he doesn't know mine. He's just an acquaintance.

Was I betraying her friendship by writing the 'golden rule' article? I don't think so. Some people might say that I wasn't 'standing by' her by saying that, but I disagree. She's still my friend, he's still my acquaintance. I'm ticked at him for getting exiled and taking LW away from something that she's said before keeps her sane some days. As for her - well, I understand why she left. I'd do the same thing if it were Dave that got exiled.

Sabrina knows how I feel. And that's all that really matters.

bakerstreet

on Mar 01, 2006

The saddest part, I think, is that by the time Brad posted his explaination of being tired, the whole thing would have been blown over. Given a day or two I think LW could have lobbied his return if he hadn't written off the site completely.

I mean, how many times have some other people been exiled and returned? Hell, SPM is posting here again. If bruised feelings are more important than blogging here, I tend to think no one would have gotten as mad as they did. Evidently to get their feelings this hurt it must mean a lot.

I think it is indicative of "power issues", frankly. People who generally storm off for two reasons. Either they aren't well-liked here, which begs that they might be happier elsewhere, or they want an environment where they can say whatever they want with no one "over" them.

It's never real expression that gets people canned. It's stuff uttered off the top of their heads or secondary feuds that have little to do with their ideals. I don't remember seeing anyone exiled from here for expressing their real beliefs, outside of being hateful in the process.

JillUser

on Mar 01, 2006

I don't think "following" is a requirement (nor is the disagreeing with the banishment). Publicly blasting her husband (at length, repeatedly), whom she dearly loves is pretty rough, don't you think?

People blast my husband all the time. I understand LW's stance but if you take the fact that Simon is her husband out of the picture, her response was very inconsistant with past responses regarding other bloggers. She has defended Brad for much less offensive remarks but I suspect she had an agenda regarding those bloggers. She was 'blinded by love' in this case. I can't blame her for that but I don't see how fervently denouncing her husband is 'doing an about-face' in regards to LW.

TW, you and I are still babies in terms of experience with online communities. Brad and many others on here have had many years of experience with this stuff. They can probably pretty much predict which bloggers are going to self destruct and when in the same way teachers can usually spot students who are 'gifted', 'troubled', etc. It is a matter of experience. I am sure they are pleasantly surprised sometimes but not often.

I couldn't tell you how many times I have made a comment about a blogger only to have Brad say "Yeah, but I bet in __ months they will be doing ___." I will give him a "Yeah, whatever." and sure enough, more often than not the exact thing he predicted will happen. He isn't omnipotent (although he would argue that

) he has just had a vast amount of experience.

He and Karma had told me when I stated blogging that the communities always go through cycles. I have blogged long enough now to see that they were right on the money. I felt condescended by some of their guidance but now I see it for what it is. I am a youngling who is still learning the ways of the force. They are the masters showing me the way

It's never real expression that gets people canned. It's stuff uttered off the top of their heads or secondary feuds that have little to do with their ideals. I don't remember seeing anyone exiled from here for expressing their real beliefs, outside of being hateful in the process.

Another insightful for Baker!

Texas Wahine

on Mar 01, 2006

Jill:

People blast my husband all the time.

And if I were you, THAT would make me furious, too. You are far more diplomatic than I am...I wouldn't be able to keep my mouth shut.

I can't blame her for that but I don't see how fervently denouncing her husband is 'doing an about-face' in regards to LW.

Perhaps I'm blinded to it as well. I was just disappointed by the way things played out.

TW, you and I are still babies in terms of experience with online communities.

Very true. This is my first (and only) one.

Brad and many others on here have had many years of experience with this stuff. They can probably pretty much predict which bloggers are going to self destruct and when in the same way teachers can usually spot students who are 'gifted', 'troubled', etc. It is a matter of experience. I am sure they are pleasantly surprised sometimes but not often.

I believe it.

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