When is Suicide permissible?

Just a question ok?

Published on October 28, 2005 By Moderateman In Life

I have often wondered when Is suicide permissible, what circumstances must you be in?

Is it a selfish or a selfless act?

Does it take strength to kill yourself or some kind of inherent weakness>

Do you take loved ones in consideration and allow that to override suicidal thoughts?

Do you "hang in there as long as you can" to please a loved one?

disclaimer FOR THE INCREDIBLY STUPID, mm HAS NO PLANS TO HURT HIMSELF! SO PLEASE SPARE ME. i ASKED QUESTIONS and want answers to the questions I asked.

Comments (Page 2)

Moderateman

on Oct 28, 2005

Reply By: NickyGPosted: Friday, October 28, 2005

now your answers are what I was looking for, not permission or anything like it, just your opinions, wondewrful and thank you.

MM

Moderateman

on Oct 28, 2005

#6 by DylanZimmerman
Friday, October 28, 2005

dyl all I am looking for is some insight into how people feel about this subject, there is NO RIGHT OR WRONG answer.

thanx dyl.

xoxoxo back at ya kiddo.

mm

Moderateman

on Oct 28, 2005

7 by Dr. Guy
Friday, October 28, 2005

thats all I wanted doc, some discussion, some food for thought.

thanx,

elie

Moderateman

on Oct 28, 2005

#8 by dharmagrl
Friday, October 28, 2005

reserve the right to die with dignity, on my terms.....not on the terms of some disease that I have no control over.

exactly D. my thoughts on this are already known, I will not die rotting.

mm

Moderateman

on Oct 28, 2005

#9 by UBoB
Friday, October 28, 2005

Yes, I think sometimes it is permissible.

me too, there is a point when it's all usless hanging on anymore and it's time to let go and let GOD>.

Moderateman

on Oct 28, 2005

11 by Gimpyone
Friday, October 28, 2005

I see that eye is still giving you trouble michele{ large print from you , dead give away}

We have talked about this ever since micheal, enough said.

hey chele?? I love you!

Moderateman

on Oct 28, 2005

#12 by TARSIER
Friday, October 28, 2005

Personally, I believe that if I were to commit suicide it would be selfishly. My religion also says that suicide is the wrong thing to do, but who am I to judge? It is interesting that people have different opinions of what suicide is. Vikings thought that going into battle alone and knowing you were dying for a just cause to be the only true hero. Some think that refusing to eat, drink, use medications, etc. is suicide, while others think that is just the way things should happen. I dunno, sorry I can't give you an answer. Hope this helps.

you did answer, I do not know is an answer,

thank you.

MM

Moderateman

on Oct 28, 2005

13 by Locamama
Friday, October 28, 2005

Did you see Million Dollar Baby? I don't want to ruin the ending if you haven't but it's definately thought provoking. Rent it if you haven't seen it yet.

have not seen it and thank you for not ruining ending.
MM

Also I just want views and opinions loca.

thank you.

MM

Spc Nobody Special

on Oct 28, 2005

Next Thursday, between the hours of 8:00 and 11:00 p.m. Remember city noise ordinances, so please, don't use a gun.

Moderateman

on Oct 28, 2005

24 by Spc Nobody Special
Friday, October 28, 2005

Next Thursday, between the hours of 8:00 and 11:00 p.m. Remember city noise ordinances, so please, don't use a gun.

not even with a mark iv.. silencer?

Texas Wahine

on Oct 28, 2005

I think it's both never permissible (generally illegal) and always permissible (most people have the ability to carry it out).

I consider it more in terms of "when is it ethical"?

I don't think it's always a selfish move.

What about the Soldier who lays down on a grenade and saves the lives of his brothers?

The struggling father who intentionally gets into an accident so that his family is taken care of with life insurance?

A child molester who puts a gun in his mouth because he knows he can't control his urges?

Sometimes the death of one person can be beneficial to others, so it doesn't always have a completely negative impact. Suicide can be noble and courageous.

Much of what motivates someone to kill himself is intangible. Emotional pain cannot be measured, and while a modern day Job might be able to endure his current problem(s) and find happiness again in the future, some people are fragile and can only take so much.

I also think there are people who are not suited to life. It's like wearing someone else's clothes. It just feels wrong. They can't deal with society or the life they were born into...or sometimes even just who they are. Should they continue to live out a long life of self-loathing and emotional pain when the way they feel inside will never change, regardless of circumstances?

I absolutely agree that it is ethical for someone who is in severe pain or facing an illness or injury which will rob his life of joy to kill himself.

I also believe that it is ethical for someone who is certain that the benefit to others would be greater if he were dead than if he were to continue living to kill himself.

When it comes to situations where it is emotional pain or life events that are prompting thoughts of suicide the ethics, for me, become murkier.

It depends a lot on the person and what they are able to endure. If they are making a rash choice and their problem is temporary, then I don't think it's ethical. However, if the decision has been carefully thought out and the individual is certain that they can handle no more and that things will not improve, then it's a personal choice that I wouldn't criticize.

Spc Nobody Special

on Oct 28, 2005

not even with a mark iv.. silencer?

Only if you're going to shoot a mime.

Moderateman

on Oct 28, 2005

#26 by Texas Wahine
Friday, October 28, 2005

think it's both never permissible (generally illegal) and always permissible (most people have the ability to carry it out).

I consider it more in terms of "when is it ethical"?

I don't think it's always a selfish move.

What about the Soldier who lays down on a grenade and saves the lives of his brothers?

The struggling father who intentionally gets into an accident so that his family is taken care of with life insurance?

A child molester who puts a gun in his mouth because he knows he can't control his urges?

Sometimes the death of one person can be beneficial to others, so it doesn't always have a completely negative impact. Suicide can be noble and courageous.

Much of what motivates someone to kill himself is intangible. Emotional pain cannot be measured, and while a modern day Job might be able to endure his current problem(s) and find happiness again in the future, some people are fragile and can only take so much.

I also think there are people who are not suited to life. It's like wearing someone else's clothes. It just feels wrong. They can't deal with society or the life they were born into...or sometimes even just who they are. Should they continue to live out a long life of self-loathing and emotional pain when the way they feel inside will never change, regardless of circumstances?

I absolutely agree that it is ethical for someone who is in severe pain or facing an illness or injury which will rob his life of joy to kill himself.

I also believe that it is ethical for someone who is certain that the benefit to others would be greater if he were dead than if he were to continue living to kill himself.

When it comes to situations where it is emotional pain or life events that are prompting thoughts of suicide the ethics, for me, become murkier.

It depends a lot on the person and what they are able to endure. If they are making a rash choice and their problem is temporary, then I don't think it's ethical. However, if the decision has been carefully thought out and the individual is certain that they can handle no more and that things will not improve, then it's a personal choice that I wouldn't criticize.

wow! now this is what I call an opinion.

thanx tex I see you put lots of thought into your answer.

elie

Moderateman

on Oct 29, 2005

COME ON NOW!!! I want more opinions from some pro-life people, sheeeshhhh

Dr Guy

on Oct 29, 2005

COME ON NOW!!! I want more opinions from some pro-life people, sheeeshhhh

I am pro life. Do I not count?

Suicide is taking one's own life, not another's . While life is sacred, there does come times when it is beyond living, and just enduring. NO ONE can make that decision, except the holder of the life, and then only in a clear, sane and rational moment.

That being said, do not ask me to explain any of the subjective terms, for I will not.

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