How The Lunatic Left is Pushing me closer to being a ...

CONSERVATIVE for REAL

Published on September 17, 2005 By Moderateman In Republican

The more I see of the Lunatic fringe or as I call them, the lying left, the closer my values are getting pushed to a real conservative view.

I am now rethinking my social liberal views and am now considering just saying piss off you leeches on the lifeblood of America.

Why should I have to support your sorry ass because you are to damn lazy to find a job?

Why should I have to pay extra taxes because I am successful and your not!

Why Do I have to fix your crappy lives when you cannot even feed yourself with out sucking from the public teat?

You wanna spit out 1/2 dozen kids, learn how to feed them and cloth them your self!

You sorry excuses for human being have not a lick of gratitude for what you freely take from the tax base, you just want more and when you get more you want more and more.

We the American people feed you, cloth you, pay you to have babies educate you and still you want more.

Well I am tired of it!

Learn how to take care of yourselves, what ever happened to the American spirit of self worth?

I say stop entitlement programs, starve if you cannot figure it out, the gene pool will be better for your demise!

Yes I am angry and disgusted with the bloodsucking left and the way they steal the soul of the poor, yes they give you money for votes but they steal your soul in the process.

Comments (Page 1)

bakerstreet

on Sep 17, 2005

I don't even think it goes that far, you are granting them too much honesty. I don't think for a moment they want to raise taxes on the rich to help the poor. To do so, they always create more government programs and more "projects" for pork-hungry flunkies. I don't think they are worse than Republicans as far as funneling money, I just loathe the way they pretend they are going to spend all this money that they want to redistribute.

It's like something being government-owned in Chavezuela. To hippy leftists that means the people own it. If you own the government, though, that makes whatever the government manages yours to (ab)use. If the poor get 1% benefit, then heck, you haven't REALLY lied, right?

Moderateman

on Sep 17, 2005

#1 by BakerStreet
Saturday, September 17, 2005

I just loathe the way they pretend they are going to spend all this money that they want to redistribute

exactly baker, raise taxes under the PRETENSE of helping the poor, garner votes, then make bigger government and spend more money on personal projects, byrd has spent more money on his own state from federal funds than the entire right.

Moderateman

on Sep 17, 2005

3 by little_whip
Saturday, September 17, 2005

PREACH IT, MODMAN!!!!

gonna change my name soon to NEO-CONMAN. HEH

Lotherius

on Sep 17, 2005

You know, there are more than two ways to think.

If you limit yourself to being a Democrat/Liberal or a Republican/Conservative, you're just showing that you have no capacity for independent thought. Just because you disagree with this radical left, and disagree with how some of the social services they promote are run, and some of the constituency they serve, doesn't automatically make you a Republican.

Personally, I have disagreements with BOTH parties. Yet anytime I criticize Bush, I get labeled a Liberal weenie. I have never been on welfare, I *have* gone hungry rather than go to the food bank, etc. In a lot of ways, my life is very conservative. Yet, at the same time, I disagree wholeheartedly with the moral indignation of the Right-wing. It is not their job to be telling people how to live their personal lives - even if MY personal life fits (mostly) within that mold.

An independent thinker need not be identify himself by a party label. To do so is to box yourself in.

Texas Wahine

on Sep 17, 2005

Moderateman: I won't take issue with your hard-line opinions on social policy, not because I agree or disagree, but because I respect your right to make your mind up about the future of our nation and the issues that impact you.

I will plead you, however, not to allow the bad decisions and reckless or distasteful actions of others to rob you of your sense of compassion. You've always been a kind, generous person (at least from what I've known of you here), and I think it would be tragic for you to throw that away just to spite your opponents.

Moderateman

on Sep 17, 2005

Reply By: Texas WahinePosted: Saturday, September 17, 2005Moderateman: I won't take issue with your hard-line opinions on social policy, not because I agree or disagree, but because I respect your right to make your mind up about the future of our nation and the issues that impact you.I will plead you, however, not to allow the bad decisions and reckless or distasteful actions of others to rob you of your sense of compassion. You've always been a kind, generous person (at least from what I've known of you here), and I think it would be tragic for you to throw that away just to spite your opponents.

ah tex yer always so kind, even when I am throwing a huge hissy fit. Colleen said to me when she read this. OH MY GOD ELIE GET A GRIP!" so although angry now I seriously doubt I will toss the social liberal part of me away, I am angry not mean.

thank you tex for always being the voice of reason in a world gone mad.

Moderateman

on Sep 17, 2005

Reply By: LotheriusPosted: Saturday, September 17, 2005You know, there are more than two ways to think.If you limit yourself to being a Democrat/Liberal or a Republican/Conservative

I am a mix, split down the middle for the most part. liberal about social concerns and the enviorment, consvative about big government and , crime and punishment.

Locamama

on Sep 17, 2005

Yeah, the conservatives only care about the poor until they are born, then they can starve if their parents don't have it together.

bakerstreet

on Sep 17, 2005

" Yeah, the conservatives only care about the poor until they are born, then they can starve if their parents don't have it together."

And yet, all these rich fatcats and corporate megaliths are the main donors to most of the charities in the US. WHy do you equate opposing redistribution of wealth by force to opposing charity? You'd better serve the poor by asking why liberal politicians prefer them to remain a class of voting serfs for the Democratic party.

Conservatives spend a lot of time expressing their faith that people can work their way out of hardship. Their most vocal opposition just sit around and make racist, elitist excuses as to why they can't.

Moderateman

on Sep 18, 2005

Reply By: LocamamaPosted: Saturday, September 17, 2005Yeah, the conservatives only care about the poor until they are born, then they can starve if their parents don't have it together.

uh huh, it's that attitude that is pushing me away. The truth is here in america we do make sure the poor children have food and clothes, and health care too.

Moderateman

on Sep 18, 2005

Reply By: BakerStreetPosted: Saturday, September 17, 2005

Conservatives spend a lot of time expressing their faith that people can work their way out of hardship. Their most vocal opposition just sit around and make racist, elitist excuses as to why they can't.

how else will the democrats garner votes, the have an unending supply of votes comming through entitlements.

Moderateman

on Sep 18, 2005

13 by little_whip
Sunday, September 18, 2005

then they can starve if their parents don't have it together

Really?

shows you how deep the brainwashing has gone whip, the left believes that people here are starving to death and it's up to the waelthy to pay more taxes to feed them.

Locamama

on Sep 18, 2005

Moderate Man - I say stop entitlement programs, starve if you cannot figure it out, the gene pool will be better for your demise!

I was responding to what you said in your article. You said they can starve. You say end the entitlement programs that feed and clothe these children and then you turn around and say that we don't allow poor children to be treated that way in this country. You are contradicting yourself.

And LW before these programs were put in place there were people who starved in this country. I believe there are still people who may not die of starvation but definately go to bed hungary.

I am all for grown adults having to live with the consequences of their bad choices but I think these programs are needed for the kids who had no choice.

Locamama

on Sep 18, 2005

And Moderate Man which programs do you want to end specifically Food Stamps, Subsudized lunches, WIC, EIC, Medicaid? It is fine to be fed up with the people who manipulate the system and have a rant about it. But there are real consequences to eliminating these programs.

I also wonder about the concept of all these welfare recipients going out and voting Democrat. What percentage of voters do you think are welfare recipients? What percentage of the population do you think are welfare recipients? I really can't see that they would swing an election. Maybe the liberals actually have a heart and care about whether people are suffering. Maybe not everyone on the dole is a "sorry ass who is too lazy to get a job".

I know anecdotal evidence isn't worth much but my husband's grandparents had to go on food stamps. They were in their 60's. He has worked all of his life as a tile layer. Self-employed, hard working, paid into social security but did not make enough to have a separate retirement account, no IRA etc. but he worked all of his life. He paid his bills, bought a home, took care of his family. His wife was a homemaker most of her life but did work some part time jobs after her kids were grown and gone, she worked at the school cafeteria, at a shoe store etc. These are good, decent people. He had a massive heart attack and could not work. He is now living on social security but there was a gap between when he had his heart attack and when he could collect social security. During this time they recieved food stamps. Should they have starved? Were they lazy, good for nothings?

Locamama

on Sep 18, 2005

sorry duplicate post

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