How do you spell Democrat? H.Y.P.O.C.R.I.T.E.

Published on July 3, 2008 By Moderateman In Democrat

On May 21st, 2008, Senator Dianne Feinstein {D.CA.}, A Multi Millionaire, who was recently accused of benefiting from her position in the Senate, Reprimanded the top executives of the five largest oil companies : "you rack up record profits... quarter after quarter":also Senator Pat Leahy {D. VT} also a multi Millionaire upbraided the same executives by saying: "The people we {the Senate} represent are hurting and the companies you represent are profiting"

Congresswoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz {D. FL} Charged: " I can't say that there is any evidence that you {the oil companies} are manipulating prices, but you probably are!": Senator Dick Durbin {D, IL} Demanded: "Is there anybody here that has any concerns about what you {the oil companies} are doing to this country with the prices you are charging and the profits you are taking"?

These politicians, collectively, were sanctimoniously lecturing oil company executives, who would not know an oil derrick if one bit them on the ass. Not one of these politicians have the slightest clue on how to produce energy!

Another politician Nambla Nancy Pelosi {D.CA} the speaker of the House Declared "Democrats have a common sense plan to bring down sky rocketing gas prices while she was campaigning for re-election, since then gas prices have risen more than 70%.

Some say that oil companies pay almost no taxes. Is this true? HA! here are a couple facts. According to the Bureau of Economic Analysis and the U.S. Dept. of Energy: over the past 25 years the oil companies have paid more than 2.2 TRILLION in taxes to federal and state governments, not including local property taxes, State sales taxes and severance taxes, A total of THREE TIMES their profit during the same period.

On the average 15% of the cost of gas at the pump goes to taxes, while 4% goes to profit to the oil companies.

So while we are all hurting from "pain at the pump" and the Democrats are trying to shift the blame to the oil companies remember it's the government that reaps the biggest reward from our pain!

Comments (Page 2)

Dr Guy

on Jul 07, 2008

But they simply don't have the votes, do they?

They had enough to say no to every energy policy put forth before they had majorities, but somehow now they are all the republicans fault.

Same logic applies. If they dont have the votes now, the republicans did not before. But at least the republicans tried (half heartedly) to address the issue. The democrats seem satisfied to just whine about it.

mcbond

on Jul 08, 2008

They had enough to say no to every energy policy put forth before they had majorities

Well, actually they said no to LOTS of stuff (like drilling in ANWAR, which is a stupid idea that is more about further enriching oil compaines than it is anything else), and Republican's called them obstructionists. Now you're saying they should have said no more often? Odd.

at least the republicans tried (half heartedly) to address the issue. The democrats seem satisfied to just whine about it.

Well, the Democrats have actually begun to investigate price gouging and have proposed a windfall profits tax -- things that attempt to address the power gap betweeen consumers and big oil. And in May they unveiled the Consumer-First Energy Act Of 2008 , which proposes quite a bit more than whiningWWW Link
In fact, it's a fully realized vision for how this country becomes less dependent on foreign oil and finite, fossil fuels in general. It's easy to say they do nothing and that they just whine -- problem is, it's not true. But you know what you're doing when you say that with nothing to back it up? Think about it.

Dr Guy

on Jul 08, 2008

Better reread the response. I think you missed the big part of it.

Well, the Democrats have actually begun to investigate price gouging and have proposed a windfall profits tax --

They have investigated that out the wazoo - many times. And guess what? Never found a thing. Why? Because OPEC is outside their jurisdiction. Simply put, the Oil companies are only the face of the pain, they are not the source. And vilifying them may be soul soothing but is useless and self defeating. Just like their other feel good measures. NONE are an energy policy, and NONE are addressing the issue. Just more cheese for the whine.

And I have backed it up. But then if you read and comprehend it, you would understand that as well.

Adventure-Dude

on Jul 09, 2008

Well, the Democrats have actually begun to investigate price gouging and have proposed a windfall profits tax

Pop quiz McBond. What percent of revenues are oil companies taxed?

MasonM

on Jul 09, 2008

Yeah, a windfall profits tax worked so well the last time.

This is exactly the sort of stupidity that one comes to expect from Congress. When all else fails do something that didn't work in the past just so you can say you did something.

Alternative energy is something we do need to develop, but anything resulting from that is decades away from being helpful. People are hurting now. This isn't the time for party politics and pet projects. It's the time to put those things aside, roll up the shirt sleeves, and come up with real, workable, immediate solutions to the problem at hand that will actually benefit the country and it's people.

mcbond

on Jul 10, 2008

NONE are an energy policy, and NONE are addressing the issue.

Consumer-First Energy Act Of 2008 <---Energy policy that addresses the issue. Put forth by Democrats.

That's five sentences -- where's the big part? I addressed everything in your reply -- you addressed nothing in mine. If you mean "big" as in important...what's to get? The "same logic applies" part? I guess, but the Republicans did have a Republican oil man in the White House when they had a majority -- sort of the equivalent of the Dems having Al Gore as prez and both houses. I'd say that was quite a little advantage they did nothing with. They also had SIX years with that advantage, invaded and occupied freaking Oil Land, and STILL came up with zip. By any reasonable measure, that's proof that Republicans are stunningly incompetent at governing, legislating, and probably tying their shoes.

MasonM

on Jul 10, 2008

By any reasonable measure, that's proof that Republicans are stunningly incompetent at governing, legislating, and probably tying their shoes.

Typical party politics thinking and why things are so fucked up. Anyone who blindly adheres to a party is a moron and is part of the reason this country is heading into the crapper.

mcbond

on Jul 10, 2008

How do you spell Democrat? Oh wait, I just did. Dumbest post title E.V.E.R. Ah ha ha ha... What's 2+2=4? 10. Ah ha ha ha...

mcbond

on Jul 10, 2008

Typical party politics thinking

Yeah, and this forum is so full of neutral people. I provide a counterpoint to all the Republican bullshit on here and your response is "you're a moron". Meanwhile, you're posting in a thread that calls Democrats H.Y.P.O.C.R.I.T.E.S. and haven't seen it necessary to mention that. You seem like one of those "typical" Republicans who tries to come off above the fray by saying that you're independent, but defending all things conservative. Are you Bill O'Reilly using a fake picture? Or are you just emulating him?

MasonM

on Jul 10, 2008

Yeah, and this forum is so full of neutral people. I provide a counterpoint to all the Republican bullshit on here and your response is "you're a moron". Meanwhile, you're posting in a thread that calls Democrats H.Y.P.O.C.R.I.T.E.S. and haven't seen it necessary to mention that. You seem like one of those "typical" Republicans who tries to come off above the fray by saying that you're independent, but defending all things conservative. Are you Bill O'Reilly using a fake picture? Or are you just emulating him?

I appreciate you demonstrating my point for me. Thank you for that.

I'm independent and unlike the morons who seem to dominate this nation I hold no affiliation with either major party. While I may "seem" like whatever your little mind may choose to invent, I actually think for myself instead of allowing some group of party asshats to tell me what I should think. Try it some time, you may find it refreshing.

mcbond

on Jul 10, 2008

Yes, you're a conservative who pretends to be an independent (still no problem with all the attacks on Democrats, but you go right after an attack on Republicans) as evidenced by this thread and this exchange in particular. (Ignore that sentence -- call me a mindless sheep or something.) There's another post calling Nancy Pelosi a liar and a queen bee -- is that evidence of "typical party politics thinking"? Seems like it, but you seem cool with that...hmmmm. Seems almost, I don't know, hypocritical.(Don't address that, just call me a moron.) And you're all about independent thinking, but if someone has a different view from you then they're a moron? (Go on about my little mind a little more -- I'll forget that you have no answers for this.)

MasonM

on Jul 11, 2008

call me a mindless sheep or something

Gladly.

There's another post calling Nancy Pelosi a liar and a queen bee -- is that evidence of "typical party politics thinking"?

Yep, except for the fact that the article is factual. Hurt your feelings that one of your party heroes is full of shit?

just call me a moron

Ok, I don't have a problem with that based upon your posts to date.

And you're all about independent thinking, but if someone has a different view from you then they're a moron?

This is where you demonstrate your own stupidity. I have demonstrated on many threads that I respect differing opinions. I just don't respect stupidity, especially political stupidity.

Go on about my little mind a little more

I would but you seem to have done such a good job of it I just don't feel the need.

mcbond

on Jul 11, 2008

Yep, except for the fact that the article is factual. Hurt your feelings that one of your party heroes is full of shit?

No, but I find it amusing how full of shit you are. Your litmus test for "typical party politics thinking" is whether or not the argument in question is factual. You just said as much. The thing that started this whole exchange is when you called me out for being partisan because of this quote:

the Republicans did have a Republican oil man in the White House when they had a majority -- sort of the equivalent of the Dems having Al Gore as prez and both houses. I'd say that was quite a little advantage they did nothing with. They also had SIX years with that advantage, invaded and occupied freaking Oil Land, and STILL came up with zip.

What part of that is not factual? You're laughable. You're caught in an obvious contradiction, you know it, and the best you can come up with is dummy, dummy, dummy, like a five year old. I have no problem with the name calling, if that's your thing, but you need to actually squeeze in a refutation of my point somewhere, too.

It's interesting how many Republicans, like yourself, feel the need to claim to be independent. In your case, it's clearly pretension (you're sooo much smarter than the rest of the nation that's "dominated by morons"), but I wonder if it isn't a little bit of shame, too. I'd be ashamed if I was associated with a party that had that record.

Dr Guy

on Jul 11, 2008

What part of that is not factual?

They also had SIX years with that advantage

That part to start with. It does you no good (or your argument) when you insult others while making bone headed idiotic statements like that.

MasonM

on Jul 11, 2008

Your litmus test for "typical party politics thinking" is whether or not the argument in question is factual. You just said as much.

No, I didn't say as much. I suppose English wasn't your best subject in school as you don't seem to understand it very well.

The thing that started this whole exchange is when you called me out for being partisan because of this quote:

the Republicans did have a Republican oil man in the White House when they had a majority -- sort of the equivalent of the Dems having Al Gore as prez and both houses. I'd say that was quite a little advantage they did nothing with. They also had SIX years with that advantage, invaded and occupied freaking Oil Land, and STILL came up with zip.

You seem to lack an ability to look back a few posts in a thread too.

I called you out on partisanship because of the following moronic statement:

By any reasonable measure, that's proof that Republicans are stunningly incompetent at governing, legislating, and probably tying their shoes.

To which I replied:

Typical party politics thinking and why things are so fucked up. Anyone who blindly adheres to a party is a moron and is part of the reason this country is heading into the crapper.

And I stand by that. This sort of stupid partisanship does nothing but harm the country. I never responded to the part you quote above because it is basically true and I have no problem with it. The moronic statement you followed it with is what I took issue with, but you don't seem to be smart enough to understand that.

It's interesting how many Republicans, like yourself, feel the need to claim to be independent. In your case, it's clearly pretension (you're sooo much smarter than the rest of the nation that's "dominated by morons"), but I wonder if it isn't a little bit of shame, too. I'd be ashamed if I was associated with a party that had that record.

Sorry for you there, Skippy. I am not associated with either party and never will be. I have voted for both Democrats and Republicans in the past depending upon whom I thought was the better candidate. You can continue to believe I am a Republican if it makes you feel better, I really don't care. It's pretty typical for those who are so enamoured of a party that they can't imagine that anyone who disagrees with them could be anything other than a member of the opposing party. Frankly, all who blindly follow either party without question are no better than sheep being led to the slaughter.

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