America has problems, but America is NOT THE PROBLEM!~

This is why the west will lose to terrorists!  Fanatical terror suspect Abdulla Ahmed Ali, 25, and his wife, Cossor, 23, are among those being interrogated by police as suspects in the massive plot to attack trans-Atlantic flights in midair.

This couple who seemed so normal to friends and neighbors planned to use a liquid explosive in their babies bottle to MURDER A Jet full of people.

The Alis planned to use 6-month-old son Zain's baby bottle as a liquid bomb, blowing themselves and their child up, along with hundreds of others aboard the flight.

The child is now in the custody of its grandparents."Cossor was not someone I had an argument with, never any problems," said a shocked Bronwen Hammond, who attended London's Walthamstow School for Girls with her.

"She would wear the full Muslim outfit because of her parents, but she was never preaching," Hammond told The Mail on Sunday. "There were a lot more religious people at school."

But British security experts suspect that Cossor Ali is an example of a chilling phenomenon that is growing in popularity among the terror set - a woman willing to use her innocent appearance to allay suspicions and carry out a suicide bombing. At least 20 Muslim women have blown themselves up in such attacks.

Particularly disturbing was Cossor Ali's apparent intent to conceal the liquid trigger for a bomb in Zain's baby bottle when the family boarded a jetliner.

"It may be beyond belief, but we are convinced that there are now women in Britain who are prepared to die with their babies for their twisted cause," a security adviser to the British government told The Times of London.

"They are ruthless, single-minded and totally committed."

Cossor, a British citizen like her husband, lived with her parents and two older sisters before marrying Ali three years ago. The couple moved into the project and were receiving government assistance.

It's not known how they met, but Ali attended another school along with two others arrested last week - his brother, Hassan Abdullah Khan, 21, and a Pakistani-born man, Wahid Arafat Khan, 25.

Asan Khan and Waheed Khan are not related, but both attended the east London mosque Masjid e-Umer, where eight alleged members of the conspiracy met and which is now a focus of the investigation.

Ali, like the other two men, was recalled as a routine student when he attended Aveling Park School.

"He certainly wasn't the sort of person you would describe as radical when he was at school," a former student said. "He was just a normal boy who didn't stand out from the crowd."

British investigators have disclosed few details since the startling series of arrests last week triggered a sweeping series of security measures at airports, including restrictions on baby bottles and formulas.

Because of suspicions like those that fell on Cossor Ali, mothers are being required to taste babies' milk at airline check-ins before they are allowed to take it aboard aircraft.

Friends and relatives of members of the alleged plot say some suspects had recently visited Pakistan, where the conspiracy is believed to have been based.

Cossor's grandfather Nazir Ahmed, 84, said Ali made an unexpected visit to Pakistan about four weeks ago.

How can the west that is so wrapped up in apperances about fighting fair and by rules deal with such fanatics willing not only to kill themselves in order to kill westerners but to murder their own child as well.

Until we throw out the rule book and start fighting this war for real, killing as many Muslims as possible we will continue to live in fear.

We should be using pigs blood as part of out tactics, since dieing with pigs blood keeps the Muslims out of heaven, no 72 virgins for you pal..

Our bombs should be armed with pigs blood, when we interrogate prisoners we should gut a pig and sew the Muslims inside  and threaten to kill them inside the pig if they do not spill the beans on the other fanatics.


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on Aug 24, 2006
Where does that put me TW? I'm just a hair shy or 6' (Last told I was 5'11 n 7/8" )
on Aug 24, 2006

Reply By: Texas WahinePosted: Thursday, August 24, 2006
Charles: Your BMI classes you as obese. A healthy weight for you is at MOST 164 lbs.

Why am I telling you this? Because I'm obsessed with BMI. No offense, but when anyone lists their weight and height I have to look up their BMI.

Oh GOD I am afraid to ask.   six feet 2 plus inches and  233 and 1/2 pounds.

 

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on Aug 24, 2006

Where does that put me TW? I'm just a hair shy or 6' (Last told I was 5'11 n 7/8" )

A tall person snob!

on Aug 25, 2006
I think the possible solution to the violence is not as simple as a couple of 50 mega-ton yields, as I see it there are two overall objectives:
1. Kill extremist terrorists
2. Prevent future indoctination

You can't change the minds of the current terorists, they need to be killed so they don't spread the idea. We need to start a clandestine operation to support and fund a credible Muslim religous movement preaching peace, the true intent of the Koran to stop future terrorists from being recruited. If you try to kill ants by just killing ants you'll lose, you gotta get the source, the queen.
on Aug 25, 2006
I have no problem with leaving Iraq, none at all. - ModerateMan

Hell yes. I second that notion.

Our captured military already are being treated totally inhumanly. - ModerateMan

Yes. Good point. Hard to argue w / that. I would still stand that I believe us not acting to the standard of 'Ronnie's' 'Shining City on the Hill' would simply encourage and hasten a 'gurantee' of our soldiers' abuse at the hands of an international enemy. For our troops to fail to observe a certain international standard such as the Geneva Convention's would assure our troops total inhumane treatment. Let's give 'em a break - any break we can.
on Aug 25, 2006
Charles: Your BMI classes you as obese. A healthy weight for you is at MOST 164 lbs.

Why am I telling you this? Because I'm obsessed with BMI. No offense, but when anyone lists their weight and height I have to look up their BMI.


Ouch. 164 seems pretty far away. I have a lot of work to do. No offence taken, I know I am over weight though I may not look it much. I appreciate the info, I was very ignorant to it, by choice.

why yer must be built like a fireplug!


Hardly, I have never really don't exercise in my life. Unless you count the years of bike riding for several hours a day when I was a teen, which I was very skinny back then. I should send you a pic of my before and after, it's horrifying.

Oh, and at your height you could weigh as little as 123 lbs. and still be healthy. Crazy, huh?


I don't see that happening any time soon, not unless fast food becomes illegal.
on Aug 25, 2006
Wow, talk about being way off topic.
on Aug 25, 2006

Reply By: GregoreusPosted: Friday, August 25, 2006
I think the possible solution to the violence is not as simple as a couple of 50 mega-ton yields, as I see it there are two overall objectives:
1. Kill extremist terrorists
2. Prevent future indoctination

now this makes perfect sense, why is it the government of America CANNOT OR WILL NOT SEE THIS?

on Aug 25, 2006
Because half of America thinks and votes like half the people writing on this site. Common sense has become uncommon, Moderateman, we are a select few these days.
on Aug 25, 2006
#72 by Gregory's
Fri, August 25, 2006 2:33 PM


Because half of America thinks and votes like half the people writing on this site. Common sense has become uncommon, Moderateman, we are a select few these days.


thank you, yes I have never seen America so polarized, and it's not just opposing views there seems to be down right hatred involved. I must say I get so wound up there are times I forget there is a real person on the other side of the computer and fire away at them like they are my enemies.
They are not my enemies, they are my brothers and sisters and I must start remembering that when someone writes something that infuriates me.
on Sep 02, 2006
I'm a lefty and I say we need the Dirty Harry approach.
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