America has problems, but America is NOT THE PROBLEM!~
Let me get this straight
Published on March 27, 2006 By Moderateman In US Domestic
So while watching the news, no not just fox but all over the channels, I see pictures of Illegal Immigrants waving Mexican flags to protest making ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS, well ILLEGAL>

If you are so pro Mexico waving with pride the Mexican flag while living in America, protesting American laws, why are you here?

Why are you not in MEXICO trying to make life better?

Liberal teachers are encouraging their students to get out there and protest the enforcement of American laws {sneaking into the united states}.

I guess as a first generation American { mom and dad came from turkey} and taught to respect American laws, while learning how to speak English is just too much to ask of this new generation of law breakers.,

The bureau of prisons estimate that upwards of 30% of all prisoners in America are indeed Illegal aliens.

I live in California and have watched hospital after hospital have to close their doors due to ILLEGAL Aliens receiving care and NOT PAYING, this has an effect on those of us that are LEGAL.

Somehow people that have snuck into America think they are owed something, and the liberal left supports this Idea.

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on Mar 27, 2006
There is more here than meets the eye.
on Mar 27, 2006
Reply By: Dr. GuyPosted: Monday, March 27, 2006There is more here than meets the eye.


I don't think so doc, it has now become a crime to point out criminal behavior in a minority.
on Mar 27, 2006
Just to beat a dead horse, no one seems to care about the business owners, who are profiting by using illegal labor, breaking the laws.

Hopefully, the congress will work together and pass a law that will allow these workers to pay a fine, be able to stay legally and pay taxes into our government.

If they break the laws of our country and they have no legal standing to be in our country, then they should be deported. I don't know how it makes sense to pay to incarcerate people who are not citizens. I guess the thought is that if they deport them, they will just come back.
on Mar 27, 2006
Reply By: LocamamaPosted: Monday, March 27, 2006Just to beat a dead horse, no one seems to care about the business owners, who are profiting by using illegal labor, breaking the laws.


beat away, I think that if we eliminated the ILLEGAL work force and gave a living wage for menial jobs the price of things and services would get higher. I am all for that~!

America is for AMERICANS!
on Mar 27, 2006

don't think so doc, it has now become a crime to point out criminal behavior in a minority.

I know what you mean, but that is not what I mean.  I mean why are they up in arms now?  We have gone through this before and it has accomplished nothing.  WHy now?  Nothing being proposed will do a diddly damn.  As someone else said, until we start enforcing our current laws, making new ones will do nothing.

on Mar 27, 2006
Reply By: Dr. GuyPosted: Monday, March 27, 2006don't think so doc, it has now become a crime to point out criminal behavior in a minority.I know what you mean, but that is not what I mean. I mean why are they up in arms now? We have gone through this before and it has accomplished nothing. WHy now? Nothing being proposed will do a diddly damn. As someone else said, until we start enforcing our current laws, making new ones will do nothing.


I stand corrected, there is a great protest happening right now In l.a. blocking traffic on the `101 and the 110, now on surface streets, HOW DARE AMERICANS try to enforce laws!
on Mar 27, 2006
Locamama has the right answer! Take away the incentive to come here - I say to those employers who knowingly hire illegals, they should get a minimum year in prison. It;s one thing to break the law and come here illegally, it's another to profit from it. These employers should be treated as the traitors they are.
on Mar 27, 2006
BTW - Mod Man, Your comments sound like you're an "America, Love it or Leave It" guy but from what I've read you don't sound that intolerant. Surely, where's the moderate part of your identity?
on Mar 27, 2006
BTW - Mod Man, Your comments sound like you're an "America, Love it or Leave It" guy but from what I've read you don't aren't normally so intolerant. Where's the moderate part of your identity? And your comment about "learning how to speak English is just too much to ask of this new generation of law breakers" doesn't really have a place in this discussion - although it shows a slightly racist perspective to make such an assumption.
on Mar 27, 2006
Just to make it clear, Mexico was not the only country represented at that march (thousands sneak in from many other Latin American countries as well).

ModMan
America is for AMERICANS!


I understand some of your points...I must admit being a bit offended, though, since I wouldn't be here being a successful American if it were not for someone in my family crossing over that Mexican border...

Moving away from my sentimentality, I really do hope this reform works in a way that would help these immigrants stay here legally.
Believe it or not, most don't feel like "something is owed to them."
They just want to work their butts off to ensure they and their families survive life...and what better place to do it than in the land of opportunity and dreams.
on Mar 27, 2006
Reply By: Buddah MoskowitzPosted: Monday, March 27, 2006Locamama has the right answer! Take away the incentive to come here


agreed.
on Mar 27, 2006
Reply By: Buddah MoskowitzPosted: Monday, March 27, 2006


English is just too much to ask of this new generation of law breakers" doesn't really have a place in this discussion - although it shows a slightly racist perspective to make such an assumption.


not after watching my mother struggle to speak and write in a language so foriegn to her it does'nt, She came from a family that spoke 3 languages, turkish, spanish and french. ewww {on the french}
on Mar 27, 2006
Reply By: InBloomPosted: Monday, March 27, 2006Just to make it clear, Mexico was not the only country represented at that march (thousands sneak in from many other Latin American countries as well).ModManAmerica is for AMERICANS! I understand some of your points...I must admit being a bit offended, though, since I wouldn't be here being a successful American if it were not for someone in my family crossing over that Mexican border...


did they come legally? {then I can answer you}
on Mar 27, 2006
She came from a family that spoke 3 languages, turkish, spanish and french. ewww {on the french}


Thank you for making my point for me.
on Mar 27, 2006
I understand some of your points...I must admit being a bit offended, though, since I wouldn't be here being a successful American if it were not for someone in my family crossing over that Mexican border...


The funny thing is, until recently, most hispanics were here long before anglos were. My in-laws are a case in point. But the problem has reached a point that we must get it under control, either through laws (useless) or controlling the borders.

I wish we could welcome everyone with open arms, but the lifeboat will only hold so many. Overfill it and it will sink.
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