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It's one too many for me.
Published on November 28, 2005 By Moderateman In Ethics
With all the kill tookie williams debate going on and state sanctioned MURDER IS OK WITH SOME HERE.

All I have to add is In my heart I KNOW at least one innocent person sat in there cell awaiting death by state murder and DID not do it!

How any of you pro state murder people can live with yourself is wayyyyyyy beyond me!

I hope you all sleep well at night knowing you have sanctioned the murder of an innocent and this and this alone makes you no different than home grown terrorist.

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on Nov 30, 2005
Reply By: Dr. GuyPosted: Wednesday, November 30, 2005Would I want osoma dead, ok being honest, yes, i would personally put a bullet through his head if I could.You are not Michael Dukakis! But you are an honest man.


thanx doc, the truth Is I would put a .50 cal round through his head
on Nov 30, 2005
the truth Is I would put a .50 cal round through his head


There wouldn't BE a head once that cal. was done with it. It would be gone.
on Nov 30, 2005
#64 by dharmagrrrl
Wednesday, November 30, 2005


the truth Is I would put a .50 cal round through his head


There wouldn't BE a head once that cal. was done with it. It would be gone.


Much as I abhor killing, I could live with this.
on Nov 30, 2005
I understand where you are coming from, Mod, but I don't know really how you can have it both ways. We want a system where an infallible interest can look at someone and KNOW, and then deem them worth of death. Imagine all the societies that professed that kind of system, and what kind they really were.

The fallibility of our system is our freedom, the fact that our peers judge us, and that ensures that no one person can sit around and kill whoever they like. That isn't something to worry about, that makes the having the option of the death sentence tolerable.

No, the power we have is in our hands, and the only other option is to say no one should have the power at all. To say that leaves people like bin Laden laying around in jail, writing books and giving interviews, too. A fail-safe system is always insecure. If it wouldn't bother you I might write something along those lines, if you wouldn't think it hijacking your theme.
on Dec 01, 2005
Reply By: BakerStreetPosted: Wednesday, November 30, 2005I understand where you are coming from, Mod, but I don't know really how you can have it both ways. We want a system where an infallible interest can look at someone and KNOW, and then deem them worth of death. Imagine all the societies that professed that kind of system, and what kind they really were. The fallibility of our system is our freedom, the fact that our peers judge us, and that ensures that no one person can sit around and kill whoever they like. That isn't something to worry about, that makes the having the option of the death sentence tolerable.No, the power we have is in our hands, and the only other option is to say no one should have the power at all. To say that leaves people like bin Laden laying around in jail, writing books and giving interviews, too. A fail-safe system is always insecure. If it wouldn't bother you I might write something along those lines, if you wouldn't think it hijacking your theme.


I can have it both ways baker beause I am human and reserve the right to change my mind at the drop of a hat. heh heh.

Write away baker i love reading your articles, it pleases me to no end to know I inspired an article that you wrote.
on Dec 01, 2005
Oh, haven't written it yet. Didn't want you to think I was trying to spin one off of ya. I might in a few days, though. I expect to be grilled, no slacking.
on Dec 01, 2005
68 by BakerStreet
Thursday, December 01, 2005


Oh, haven't written it yet. Didn't want you to think I was trying to spin one off of ya. I might in a few days, though. I expect to be grilled, no slacking.


baker, I am not one of those bloggers that think because I write something it means NO ONE else can wtite about it, I love to see one article no matter who writes it have many differing points of views. I remember iconoclast jumping all over me because I wrote a similar article, like somehow he owned the subject. lol.

Will be looking forward to yours when ever you get around to it.

Maybe on the cover you can "dedicate' it to me. bahahahahahahahahahaha
on Dec 01, 2005
I have found the perfect solution to executing killers, we simply give them a lobotomy, there by eliminating any aggression and then they can be released back into society and we will not have to spend hundreds of millions keeping them under lock and key.
on Dec 01, 2005
lobotomies--unlike some vasectomies--can't be reversed.
on Dec 02, 2005
Reply By: kingbeePosted: Thursday, December 01, 2005lobotomies--unlike some vasectomies--can't be reversed.


neither can death kingbee. reversed that is.
on Dec 02, 2005
Reply By: ParaTed2kPosted: Tuesday, November 29, 2005I guess we better end the entire medical profession then, since the infallibility of medical professionals ends far more innocent lives than capital punishment. Even if we took away the medical mistakes, do you realize how many medicines have death as a "side effect"? If capital punishment is "state sponsored murder", then what should we call it when a doctor prescribes a medication (or a paramedic or nurse administers one) that lists "death" as an acceptable risk?"If One Innocent Person is Put to Death, It's too much for me"...


whoa ted, massive stretch, eh worthy of a colongene mind set.

MM slaps ted inna back o head... wake up ted, yer having a nightmare
on Dec 02, 2005
I think the death penalty is appropriate in some cases.

If I were the "innocent person" on death row, I'd certainly think I was not receiving justice, but I don't think it would cause me to reject the justice system itself. Just because it sometimes makes mistakes, that doesn't make it a bad system.

All systems make mistakes. Systems that gives murderers a free pass, rather than risk executing an innocent like me, seem to me more mistaken than the system we currently have.

I know that the system could easily screw me over. I just don't think that it screws over society in general.
on Dec 02, 2005

I generally consider people who murder other people little more than animals so I see nothing wrong with treating them as such.

on Dec 03, 2005
neither can death kingbee. reversed that is.


i sorta figured that out. but that's no reason to opt for another irreversible procedure. might as well cut off both arms and legs.

i'm with ya on this one. unfortunately, for a variety of reasons, too many people get caught up in what becomes for them the 'injustice' system. application of improving dna forensics continues to prove how easily it is for an innocent person to be wrongfully convicted.
on Dec 13, 2005
I think "Tookie"Williams should spend the rest of his days behind bars. I believe anyone who takes another life with forethought and malice should spend their life behind bars. What I don't believe in is the Death Plenty. I did once. No more. How can taking a life be a just sentence for taking a life. And where does it end? In this society, isn't it JUSTICE enough for the police and detectives to have found the person(s) responsible for killing (yes killing) the one(s) you loved?
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