Racism is more than a two way street.

Blacks are every bit as racist as whites are.

Published on September 4, 2005 By Moderateman In US Domestic

I am so tired of every time someone points out a black doing anything, they get leaped all over and called racist, well not every person that mentions the word black is a racist I know I am not.

The overuse of blacks of the race card is getting tiresome.

There are just too many examples to point out so I am not going to cite any.
Surely if I do someone will be quick to point out how racist that is, or what a closet racist I am.

MOST of the looting in New Orleans was done by blacks {fact} pointing this out is just calling it like it is, not some kind of vast white right wing conspiracy.

I see plenty of black racism that no one dares point out because it ain't politically correct to do so.

This crying racist is going the way of the boy that cried wolf.

I had my ass handed to me in Harlem for the crime of www.. {walking while white} what was I doing in Harlem? I lived there is what.

I was robbed at gunpoint by blacks while having my store open in Oakland California that just loved taunting me with racial slurs while they were taking a money donation from me at gunpoint. Am I to assume from that 2 instances {new york and 3300 miles away in Oakland that all blacks are thugs and thieves? nope I do not.

Are all blacks racist? I think not, well neither are whites all racist either.

I have been called in my life "dirty Jew" by both whites and blacks "Jesse Jackson called new york city, Jew york city where was the outrage then? The leader of the black Muslim nation Louis farrakhan is an out and out Jew hater, a white hater too, why are these two not mentioned when racism is being talked about?

Before you "african americans" throw stones
take a look at you own behavior, and the general behavior of your own people.
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Comments (Page 2)

Moderateman

on Sep 04, 2005

Racism hurts wonderful people like ForeverSerenity. Why contribute to that?

well tex, like you said she does not fling the race card everytime someone mentions blacks, I like her, far as I know she likes me.

Texas Wahine

on Sep 04, 2005

all the use of looking to your own people means is see what your own does before throwing stones tex.

But that assumes that all races are some sort of collective and are responsible for the actions of one another. It doesn't work that way.

I'm white. Irish, French, Native American, etc. Should I see what other Irish Americans or Native Americans or French Americans are doing before I choose to speak or act? If a group of people named O'Neal and Sullivan go on a crime spree and start killing people, does that mean that I am, by nature, a murderer? Does it mean that I'm not controlling "my people"?

I just can't abide by the idea that we all belong to these race-wide groups and that we are responsible for intervening in the actions (or at least responsible for publicly condemning said actions) of other people who belong to our race.

Like I pointed out there are two prime examples of black racisim towards white and Jews, then I said that even with these examples that I do not think all blacks are racist.

Which is good because it indicates you are forming your opinions based on individuals and not thrusting the guilt of some individuals onto others whose only connection to the guilty individuals is sharing similar pigmentation. That's how it should be.

I'm not here to call you a racist, MM. I think that's a pretty strong charge to throw at someone, and I don't take it lightly.

I think it's good and constructive to have these discussions and examine our attitudes.

Zoologist03

on Sep 04, 2005

Hmm...what exactly is racism:

1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
2.Discrimination or prejudice based on race.

Ah...that should narrow the playing field a bit. So when people notice different races, they aren't racist!

Great article, Mod...I gave up on discussing race a long time ago...it's harder not being racist than it is to be racist...because you're always defending yourself and trying to prove you're not....*sigh*

~Zoo

Moderateman

on Sep 04, 2005

17 by little_whip
Sunday, September 04, 2005

I'm staying out of this one, folks, and as a matter of fact, I'm going to take a break from JU altogether for the next few days.

be well my slightly crazy cyberfriend... email me will ya? if ya wanna. if not looking forward to your return.

Moderateman

on Sep 04, 2005

Does it mean that I'm not controlling "my people"?

I did not say control BUT LOOK AT BEHAVIOR, before throwing stones.

and this is what drives me crazy tex, the actions of bigot racist are the actions of a few white towards blacks yet all whites get painted with the racist label if they dare point out anything negative about a black person.

I'm not here to call you a racist, MM. I think that's a pretty strong charge to throw at someone, and I don't take it lightly.

I think it's good and constructive to have these discussions and examine our attitudes.

I am glad you do not call me a racist, for I am not one, and I too think we should not be so damn sensative anout discussing race.

Moderateman

on Sep 04, 2005

#19 by Zoologist03
Sunday, September 04, 2005

The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
2.Discrimination or prejudice based on race.

Ah...that should narrow the playing field a bit. So when people notice different races, they aren't racist!

Great article, Mod...I gave up on discussing race a long time ago...it's harder not being racist than it is to be racist...because you're always defending yourself and trying to prove you're not....*sigh*

~Zoo

thanx zoo. I would refuse to take the "you are a racist bait" I know what's in my heart and frack anyone that does not like it.

philomedy

on Sep 04, 2005

The overuse of blacks of the race card is getting tiresome.

Almost as tiresome as whites overusing the "this world is too politically correct" card.

I did not say control BUT LOOK AT BEHAVIOR, before throwing stones.

And then what? So if I want to accuse someone of something, but notice that a lot of hispanics do it too, my complaint against the offending party is completely invalidated?

now PB has been attacked on several threads (not this one) due not to his opinions on the hurricane response but merely due to his friendship with me. (thanks, Phil, Myrrander, Furry Canary, and others.)

When did I attack PB? What did I do?

Moderateman

on Sep 04, 2005

23 by Philomedy
Sunday, September 04, 2005

The overuse of blacks of the race card is getting tiresome.

Almost as tiresome as whites overusing the "this world is too politically correct" card.

both bore me to tears philo.

did not say control BUT LOOK AT BEHAVIOR, before throwing stones.

And then what? So if I want to accuse someone of something, but notice that a lot of hispanics do it too, my complaint against the offending party is completely invalidated?

/ All I did was point out what was happening as reported.
you are much , much to sensative philo and jump to race conclusions faster than anyone I have known in many years.

the third thing I cannot comment on.

dharmagrl

on Sep 04, 2005

It's getting to where you can't mention the color of someone's skin or comment on their culture without being accused of rascism.

I always thought that we should celebrate each others differences, not want to homogenize ourselves. But, we can't do that any more. Any mention of differences, be they ethnic or cultural, seems to be prohibited.

So I guess I can be tarred with the rascist brush too. Whatever. I know what's in my heart, and it aint hatred because of the color of someone's skin.....it's comtempt for people's actions. There's a HUGE difference, but people don't want to see that.

philomedy

on Sep 04, 2005

All I did was point out what was happening as reported.you are much , much to sensative philo and jump to race conclusions faster than anyone I have known in many years.

No, you pointed out that African-Americans need to look at what other African-Americans do before criticizing Caucasian-Americans for doing something. I didn't make anything about race; You did. You could have pointed out an universal truth: That people should take a good, long look at themselves before criticizing others. You chose not to do that. You chose to point out that black people should take a good, long look at black people before critizing white people.

Note, I'm not calling you a racist. Just saying what I got out of this article. I don't understand why so much is being written about "Why do black people do this" and "Why don't white people do this" and "blacks should" and "whites should" and all of that stuff. I don't get why we can't write about what people should do without classifying them as one thing or another.

Moderateman

on Sep 05, 2005

Reply By: dharmagrlPosted: Sunday, September 04, 2005It's getting to where you can't mention the color of someone's skin or comment on their culture without being accused of rascism.

that's my point exactly. thank you.

Moderateman

on Sep 05, 2005

Reply By: PhilomedyPosted: Sunday, September 04, 2005

ok I cannot argue with how you perceive things philo, I am not in your skin or mind.

Note, I'm not calling you a racist. Just saying what I got out of this article. I don't understand why so much is being written about "Why do black people do this" and "Why don't white people do this" and "blacks should" and "whites should" and all of that stuff. I don't get why we can't write about what people should do without classifying them as one thing or another

philo, when a robbery is commited and the police give a description, the say things like 5ft 11 inches tall, blond hair, white, or 6ft 2 inces tall black male, are those racist statements or just a simple reporting of who, what and where.?

Dr Guy

on Sep 05, 2005

Identifying the perpertrators of a crime as one race or another is one thing. making a sweeping generalization based upon incomplete data and extending that to a race is another.

Manopeace

on Sep 05, 2005

Identifying the perpertrators of a crime as one race or another is one thing. making a sweeping generalization based upon incomplete data and extending that to a race is another.

Reminds me of a thread I wrote... where I saw 'suspected thieves' and called the police. The first question they asked me was "Were they Arabs"?
I took that as racist as I was able to identify them and tell the cops what they were wearing. The assumption that they were Arabs was just downright racist.

Moderateman

on Sep 05, 2005

29 by Dr. Guy
Monday, September 05, 2005

Identifying the perpertrators of a crime as one race or another is one thing. making a sweeping generalization based upon incomplete data and extending that to a race is another.

and where did I do this?

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