America has problems, but America is NOT THE PROBLEM!~
The twin towers fall, 3000 MURDERED and it's Clintons fault.
Published on August 18, 2005 By Moderateman In War on Terror
http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/11690

http://wizbangblog.com/archives/006792.php

http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-5215224,00.html

Read all about it, I report, you decide.

For all you Democrats that worship the ground MY guy bill walked on, here is some REALITY .

It seems Bill was having such a good time getting his cigar smoked that he paid no attention to "able danger" which warned his administration about Mohammed Atta, the leader of the 9-11 attacks.

This happened on Bill Clintons watch not George W. Bush as lefties would have us believe.

When will the left step up and take responsibility for this deploreable action or should I say INACTION?.

Now My president has to once again clean up the mess caused by the Democrats.

So we now have proof positve, not speculation, proof that once again the Democratic party betrayed america and caused the death of thousands due to their weak, soft stance on international terrorism.

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on Aug 18, 2005
Now My president has to once again clean up the mess caused by the Democrats.

So we now have proof positve, not speculation, proof that once again the Democratic party betrayed america and caused the death of thousands due to their weak, soft stance on international terrorism


we also have plenty of proof that despite your president's promise to the nation, osama bin laden is still at large.

considering the fact that your president had, at one point, the full support of the american people and most of the rest of the world as well as the world's most powerful armed force at his command, perhaps he should spend a little more than 73% of his time working on cleaning up his own mess.

when ya get right down to it, mm, a lot more people have paid with their lives for bush's mistakes and it don't appear that's gonna change any time soon. tomorrow could as easily as not be the day the livermore lab is blown off the face of the earth, sending a cloud of fallout towards the central valley because the sad fact is it's no more secure today than it was 4 years ago.

don't misunderstand me. i'd volunteer to have my skin peeled off in 1/4" squares if it would stop something like that from happening. your president and his color-coordinating security oompah-loompahs seem less than willing to break a sweat to do what's necessary to prevent it.
on Aug 18, 2005
Mod -

Are you sure those first two articles (the second refers to the first) are about Able Danger? I thought Able Danger had to do with identifying Atta as a potential al-Qaeda member. Nothing to do with what bin Ladin was doing in Afghanistan at the time. Able Danger was a military intelligence operation - the article talks about State Department analysts.

The general point holds, but I think some wires got crossed here.

Cheers,
Daiwa
on Aug 19, 2005
Sorry MM but can't follow your rhetoric on this one. True, there was a huge amount of inaction on Prs. Clinton's part, and the intel gathering agencies hands were tied in so many knots it's a miracle they could get approval to do anything, but neither of those facts caused or carried out the attacks.

We don't need an endless storm of infantile blame games and finger pointing. What we need is an After Action Review. We need an open dialogue of all the major players to talk about what went wrong and what needs to be done to fix the problem. If all we are going to do is look for coverups to expose, we might as well not bother since when it is all done, nothing will have changed.

Able Danger needs to be used as evidence of where the problems lie, not who can score the most political points against Prs. Bush or Prs. Clinton.
on Aug 19, 2005

Ah, typical kingbee response.  Cant debate the issue, sidetrack it with your own agenda.

Kingbee, do you know why the FBI has a 10 most wanted list?  Not because those 10 are in jail.  But because they cannot be found!  And the FBI has the willing cooperation of 295m people!  Now, contrast that with the unwillingness of the hiders of bin laden to give him up, plus the fact that we do not control every nook and cranny of afghanistan, and you have the answer to your side track.

If you think you can do a better job, I will take up a collection to send you to afghanistan. Go for it.

Now, do you want to address the issue that Moderateman raised or not?

on Aug 19, 2005
Able Danger needs to be used as evidence of where the problems lie, not who can score the most political points against Prs. Bush or Prs. Clinton.


As much as I dislike the Clintons personally, gotta go with Ted on this one. Rather than spend time passing blame, let's look at what we can learn from the screwups. We now have better sharing of intelligence and a new dept. of Homeland Security. That's progress. Just as it wasn't fair for democrats to blame Bush for 911... it's not any more fair to blame Clinton for it.

If you think you can do a better job, I will take up a collection to send you to afghanistan. Go for it.


Where do I send my check?
on Aug 19, 2005
when I quit laughing at you for this one, I'll try to come up with a response...
on Aug 19, 2005
Reply By: ParaTed2kPosted: Friday, August 19, 2005Sorry MM but can't follow your rhetoric on this one


tis ok ted, I just thought it was time to counter some capitolized bashing bush for everything from eve eating the apple to
the global warming going on today.
on Aug 19, 2005
Reply By: DaiwaPosted: Thursday, August 18, 2005Mod -


The general point holds, but I think some wires got crossed here.Cheers,Daiwa


now unusual for me to cross wires, but as you said the general point holds.
on Aug 19, 2005
Reply By: HC...Posted: Friday, August 19, 2005Able Danger needs to be used as evidence of where the problems lie, not who can score the most political points against Prs. Bush or Prs. Clinton.As much as I dislike the Clintons personally, gotta go with Ted on this one. Rather than spend time passing blame, let's look at what we can learn from the screwups. We now have better sharing of intelligence and a new dept. of Homeland Security. That's progress. Just as it wasn't fair for democrats to blame Bush for 911... it's not any more fair to blame Clinton for it.


agreed, but since the left loves throwing around inflamatory, skewed articles, I thought I would join in. heh
on Aug 19, 2005
Reply By: Dr. GuyPosted: Friday, August 19, 2005Ah, typical kingbee response. Cant debate the issue, sidetrack it with your own agenda.Kingbee, do you know why the FBI has a 10 most wanted list? Not because those 10 are in jail. But because they cannot be found! And the FBI has the willing cooperation of 295m people! Now, contrast that with the unwillingness of the hiders of bin laden to give him up, plus the fact that we do not control every nook and cranny of afghanistan, and you have the answer to your side track.If you think you can do a better job, I will take up a collection to send you to afghanistan. Go for it.Now, do you want to address the issue that Moderateman raised or not?


you noticed that too? hahahahaha
on Aug 19, 2005
Reply By: MyrranderPosted: Friday, August 19, 2005when I quit laughing at you for this one, I'll try to come up with a response


gee my feelings are crushed, boo hoo. get a life!!
on Aug 19, 2005
well, it's 1800 and counting...when George Bush has killed as many americans as died on 9/11, will we get to declare war on him?

of course, using his logic, we'd have to declare war on a completely unrelated but geographically close person...preferably one with lots of oil...

looks like cheney's screwed...

PS >> When a person of kingbee's intelligence "pursues his own agenda" it's usually because the article itself was so vapid it required some additives to actually make it interesting. Such is the case here.
on Aug 19, 2005
Now My president has to once again clean up the mess caused by the Democrats


Wow how interesting
I didn't know each person could have their "Own" president.

Very weak; I might not like Bush, (The president), but I still support him.
on Aug 19, 2005
13 by sushiK
Friday, August 19, 2005


Now My president has to once again clean up the mess caused by the Democrats


Wow how interesting
I didn't know each person could have their "Own" president.

Very weak; I might not like Bush, (The president), but I still support him.


when the left refers to president bush they use the term "this administration" as if they are not part and parcel of the pigsty. I use MY president because he is My President, and yours too.
on Aug 19, 2005
12 by Myrrander
Friday, August 19, 2005


well, it's 1800 and counting...when George Bush has killed as many americans as died on 9/11, will we get to declare war on him?


why yes you will myrr... I suggest you get an early start and write him a letter telling him that, in the most threatening terms possible, do not forget to afix your return adress to the letter, so President Bush can tremble in fear.
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