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Published on August 9, 2005 By Moderateman In Democrat
August 06, 2005
40 Years After Passage, Voting Law Is in Dispute
Liberals oppose law requiring identification to vote:

yep time for jesse to continue making victims of the blacks and minorities, God forbid they have real identification to prove who they are. Only jesse can make a reasonable request turn into racist behavior

Today marks the 40th year of the Voting Rights Act, and civil rights activists poured into sticky-hot Atlanta for a march that harks back to the thunderous demonstrations and rallies that led to the act's signing on Aug. 6, 1965.
But black, Hispanic and Asian American leaders who plan to link arms in front of the Georgia Capitol said this protest is no historic reenactment. They are fighting a law passed by the state's Republican-controlled legislature in March that requires voters to obtain one of six forms of photo identification before going to the polls, as opposed to the 17 types of picture and non-picture ID they currently use. Georgia officials say the changes -- which experts say will make the state's screening measures the strictest in the nation -- are needed to prevent fraud.


This is what is currently allowed as ID to vote in Georgia:

(1) a valid Georgia driver's license;
(2) a valid identification card issued by a branch, department, agency, or entity of the State of Georgia, any other state, or the United States authorized by law to issue personal identification;
(3) a valid United States passport;
(4) a valid employee identification card containing a photograph of the elector and issued by any branch, department, agency, or entity of the United States government, this state, or any county, municipality, board, authority, or other entity of this state;
(5) a valid employee identification card containing a photograph of the elector and issued by any employer of the elector in the ordinary course of such employer's business;
(6) a valid student identification card containing a photograph of the elector from any public or private college, university, or postgraduate technical or professional school located within the state of Georgia;
(7) a valid Georgia license to carry a pistol or revolver;
(8) a valid pilot's license issued by the Federal Aviation Administration or other authorized agency of the United States;
(9) a valid United States military identification card;
(10) a certified copy of the elector's birth certificate;
(11) a valid social security card;
(12) certified naturalization documentation;
(13) or a certified copy of court records showing adoption, name, or sex change;
(14) A copy of a utility bill;
(15) A bank statement (will be kept confidential);
(16) A government check or payment with name and address; or
(17) A government document that shows the name and address of the elector.

It's not hard to imagine the hodge-podge of leftist groups providing fake utility bills allowing a group of fringe dwellers to vote repeatedly.

Awareness of the legislation was raised this week with the release of memos written by Supreme Court nominee John G. Roberts Jr. from his days as a young aide in Ronald Reagan's Justice Department. Those memos revealed that Roberts forcefully advocated a policy that would shorten the law's reach. The policy sought to bar only voting rules that discriminated intentionally, as opposed to barring rules that have a discriminatory effect.
This is code for "Roberts doesn't want the downtrodden to vote".

As Congress deliberates reauthorizing the act, which is set to expire at the end of next year, some conservative critics argue that two key provisions should be modified, if not dropped altogether. One of those provisions, Section 5, requires states to draw minority-controlled congressional districts if black and Hispanic voters dominate certain residential areas.
Section 5 also required election officials in nine states, mostly in the South, to submit any voting rules changes that might affect minorities to the Justice Department for pre-clearance.


Just let it die.

That is why Georgia's new identification requirement awaits a decision by Attorney General Alberto R. Gonzales, who could approve or challenge its implementation in the coming weeks. Rural black voters, many of whom are too poor to own cars, have said they can't get to one of the state's 56 driver's license offices to get a photo ID. Black legislators stormed out of chambers to protest the change.
Union thugs deploy each election day to drive society's victims to the polls. Why can't they be deployed to drive these losers to get a photo ID?

Kathay Feng, executive director of California Common Cause, recalled going to a senior citizen center there and seeing Chinese immigrants lined up to vote during the presidential election in 1996.
White poll workers didn't understand their Cantonese language, or even the way they pronounced their names. Finally, one worker asked if they could step aside "so that we could first help regular voters," Feng said.

"The law is still needed," she said.



Posted by joey at August 6, 2005 08:01 AM


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on Aug 10, 2005
Reply By: dharmagrlPosted: Tuesday, August 09, 2005I really don't understand what the problem is. So you have to show ID to vote. What's the big deal? If you're honest and have nothing to hide, why would you mind showing ID? It's not as if the forms of ID they're asking for are so obscure that only a few people would have them or be able to obtain them. If, as was mentioned, the state has a travelling 'ID Van', much like a blood bus....then there's really no reason for folks to not be able to get an ID and then be able to vote. Of course, if you're not voting honestly or legitimately then I can see why this new measure would upset you....


and if you are broke the ID is free.
on Aug 10, 2005
Reply By: drmilerPosted: Tuesday, August 09, 2005Union thugs deploy each election day to drive society's victims to the polls. Why can't they be deployed to drive these losers to get a photo ID?which union? which union in america has the funds to hire thugs?I would have to say the Teamsters.


ummmmm the pinkertons were used as union breakers in the 20th century.

the aflcio have used thugs galore.

the docks in nyc are run by gangsters.
on Aug 10, 2005
Reply By: kingbeePosted: Wednesday, August 10, 2005means money that has gone into Democratic coffers will be used for organizing.do you know how to read? the money they're talking about is money the teamsters paid to the afl-cio as dues which was then used to back the afl-cio's political positions.


and that position is democratic, much to the anger of all the republicans that are in union and have NO SAY where and how their money is used.
on Aug 10, 2005
the docks in nyc are run by gangsters


so are the construction trades. i doubt tony soprano and johnny sack are sending lil paulie, christopher, furio or syl down to spend a week in georgia driving to take people to the polls on election day.
on Aug 10, 2005
#21 by little_whip
Wednesday, August 10, 2005


This is all BS.

They have promised to COME TO ANY PERSON who cant get out to obtain ID. They have promised to do this for FREE.


agreed, but it seems that is still rankling the left, it's just the idea that we MUST have ID.

I have to show My Id to vote or my voter registration card, why can't minorties? why? because of the leadership that understands unless they keep the minorties angry at "THE WHITEMAN" THEY will lose more power than they have already lost.

I mean with no public outrage how will sharpton, bond and jackson live?
on Aug 10, 2005
#21 by little_whip
Wednesday, August 10, 2005


This is all BS.

They have promised to COME TO ANY PERSON who cant get out to obtain ID. They have promised to do this for FREE.


agreed, but it seems that is still rankling the left, it's just the idea that we MUST have ID.

I have to show My Id to vote or my voter registration card, why can't minorties? why? because of the leadership that understands unless they keep the minorties angry at "THE WHITEMAN" THEY will lose more power than they have already lost.

I mean with no public outrage how will sharpton, bond and jackson live?
on Aug 10, 2005
25 by little_whip
Wednesday, August 10, 2005


Gotta love how kingbee takes a single sentence out of an entire article and hijacks this thread with a discussion of whether or not the unions are corrupt...etc.



just like what I already said, talking head points, toeing the leftist line, propaganda.

BTW kingbee I disagree with much of Bushes policies.
on Aug 10, 2005

I would have to say the Teamsters.

Seems he is forgetting about Wisconsin and Michigan as I would say most since they dont spend any for recruitment.  Do I need to link to that story kb?

on Aug 10, 2005

PS- Dr Guy, I got my voter registration card here in Virginia without showing any identification at all, I did it through the mail, AND i registered from Ohio, because the deadline was looming, Simon had already moved here and I was on my way.

I said to vote, you need a picture ID.  not to get your Voter registration card.  You just have to show them you are breathing for that.

on Aug 10, 2005
it's just the idea that we MUST have ID.

I have to show My Id to vote or my voter registration card, why can't minorties? why?


first of all, you're talking about a state in which, for nearly a century, black people were made to jump thru all kinda hoops before being told they couldnt register to vote.

secondly, you haven't answered my question about the incidence of voter fraud in georgia.

you may or may not have seen the figures i posted breaking down the counties of the 13 southern states. in 2004, there were 1340 counties, 1154 of which were considered to be white majority counties. in other words, more than 85% of the counties in the southern states have white majorities despite the fact that blacks make up as much as 35% of the population in georgia, 36% in louisiana and 39% in mississippi.

why does the republican majority legislature feel motivated to impose the strictest standards in the nation? trying to illegally influence an election with fraudulent voters is both ineffective and easily detected.

if they're so concerned about fair elections, why don't they forbid contracts with companies owned by major financial backers of any of the candidates--especially the incumbent?

you can mutter all you want about democrats playing blacks for fools and all the rest of your racialist crap.

as long as the republicans keep doin this shit, it's no wonder minorities want nothing to do with em.
on Aug 10, 2005
Gotta love how kingbee takes a single sentence out of an entire article and hijacks this thread with a discussion of whether or not the unions are corrupt...etc.

I thought we were talking about presenting ID to vote, kingbee, all the union bs aside, how do you feel about that?


just like what I already said, talking head points, toeing the leftist line, propaganda.


nice try yall

heres what i had to say initially. drmiler was the one who got all obsessed bout unions and then proved he don't know shit about them

for a so-called moderate man you sure grab on quickly to extremist--and, in this case, racist--propaganda.

a significant section of the item you posted was taken verbatim from a washington post article dated august 7th so i don't know how 'joey' managed to post it on august 6th. in any event, he took darryl frears' article and added his own editorial comments--without indicating one from the other.

to compound that lil bit of intellectual dishonesty, he pointedly left out the following (referring to the two voting rights provisions in question):

In a speech last week, Gonzales said he would work for the reauthorization of both provisions, according to the Justice Department. Republicans in the House and Senate have so far been supportive. President Bush has remained neutral on the issue, saying he would support any resolution that seemed fair.

this is the part i like the best tho:

Union thugs deploy each election day to drive society's victims to the polls. Why can't they be deployed to drive these losers to get a photo ID?


which union? which union in america has the funds to hire thugs? to whom is he referring as losers?

and why is it that the state of georgia has decided to make its voting laws the 'most restrictive' in the nation? has there been a plague of voter fraud there? not that i recall.

what exactly is the motivation?
on Aug 10, 2005
Seems he is forgetting about Wisconsin and Michigan as I would say most since they dont spend any for recruitment.


the so-called author if the article mm posted alleged that union thugs were delivering 'losers' to polling places in georgia.

my understanding is there aint enuff union members in georgia (not counting those bullshit employer unions) to hire a crossing guard.

what michigan and wisconsin have to do with that is beyond me--unless you're saying union employees drive down there every election to do their evil work.
on Aug 10, 2005
I have to show My Id to vote or my voter registration card, why can't minorties


in modesto (or wherever you're living) you have a voter registration card? we don't have em in la. i havent had to show any identification in any election since i moved here and i've yet to miss one.

i take along the lil booklet i get from the registrar in the mail which includes a sample ballot and lists my polling place. i hand it to the first of the three people checking lists and she finds the correct page. the next person finds that page and checks off my name...then has me sign my name on the same line as my name. the third person hands me a ballot.
on Aug 10, 2005
as long as the republicans keep doin this shit, it's no wonder minorities want nothing to do with em.


the minorities want nothing to do whith the republicans because they cannot get hand out from them, the republicsans believe you should work for you money.
on Aug 10, 2005
the minirities are quick to whine racisim because it works to to collective white gulit.
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