For those slamming the Presidents speech.

What was it you wanted to hear?

Published on June 29, 2005 By Moderateman In War on Terror

Although I already knew the left would poke holes in President Bushes speech last night, I am curious to know EXACTLY what it was you wanted to hear?

I would like sound examples, and explanations what you would do in his shoes.

Please do not say dumb stuff, like he lied about the reasons for war, or we should not be there.

The facts are, we are there, period.

Lets try to keep it clean.

I would really like to know, with no flaming if possible.

Here is your chance to show me what you think, I will respect any ideas that make sense.

This is your chance to show me you have a plan, and not just bashing Bush for bashing sake.

Comments (Page 1)

Texas Wahine

on Jun 29, 2005

I didn't watch it. I was playing Trivial Pursuit with my husband. Hehe, I don't feel like I missed out on anything.

Moderateman

on Jun 29, 2005

Reply By: Texas WahinePosted: Wednesday, June 29, 2005I didn't watch it. I was playing Trivial Pursuit with my husband. Hehe, I don't feel like I missed out on anything.

I did watch it and waited for the public flogging to begin.

Keithpup

on Jun 29, 2005

it would have been nice to hear truths,
Iraq and 911 .... No relationship

Now If the US had invaded Saudi Arabia (also a dictatorship, also not a free system and by the way home to most the people involved in 911) it would be an obvious correlation....

Iraq why did the US invade?
What is the exit strategy?
What is the reason for staying?
Since no time frame is possible giving milestones to watch for would be good.

Manopeace

on Jun 29, 2005

I was on a plane flying home so missed it...if I was home I would have missed it too...I'll get a synopsis on the Daily Show...on Comedy Central

drmiler

on Jun 29, 2005

Iraq why did the US invade?
What is the exit strategy?
What is the reason for staying?
Since no time frame is possible giving milestones to watch for would be good

I guess either you didn't watch the speech at all or you failed to comprehend even one point that Bush made.

Keithpup

on Jun 29, 2005

drmiller, if you were so much more able to comprehend the links, please explain it me,
Use small words for those of us poor mere mortals.

By the way your use of the symbol of racial prejudice and hate really fits you. Have a swastica for your next post?

kingbee

on Jun 29, 2005

, I am curious to know EXACTLY what it was you wanted to hear?

I would like sound examples, and explanations what you would do in his shoes.

Please do not say dumb stuff, like he lied about the reasons for war, or we should not be there.

in order to reply to your question, i'm gonna have to do what you asked us not to do.

when porter goss (speaking for the administration and the cia) says publicly that he is almost sure he knows where bin laden is...but we can't get him yet cuz of fair play and consideration for the national sovereignty of the county in which he believes bin laden to be hiding...

and there's an unreleased cia document which reportedly concludes that iraq has now replaced afghanistan as the main training ground for terrorists in the world because they get realtime battle experience there...

then i really have to conclude that when the president says, "Our mission in Iraq is clear. We're hunting down the terrorists."...

bush is either lying or dumb or both.

what i'd do if i were him? goss would already be in early retirement. since international opinion is no longer a problem (shameless plug for an explanation of this statement Link
) for anyone, i'd be on the phone apologizing for the mistakes of my predecessor and doing my best to get other nations to provide enough troops for the world to mount a campaign to get bin laden NOW.

despite all the nonsense i've heard about how bin laden is no longer a threat, when you absolutely, positively have to kill off an organization, cut off its head.

Dr Guy

on Jun 29, 2005

drmiller, if you were so much more able to comprehend the links, please explain it me,
Use small words for those of us poor mere mortals.

I have to agree with DR Miler. If you are still asking those questions, you did not listen to the speech.

drmiler

on Jun 29, 2005

drmiller, if you were so much more able to comprehend the links,

What links are you refering to? What parts do you not understand?

WASHINGTON — A day after President Bush went before the nation reinforcing his determination to stay the course in Iraq, lawmakers split along party lines in assessing whether Bush was effective.

"Our progress has been uneven — but progress is being made," Bush told a television audience as well as troops in the hall at Ft. Bragg. N.C., home to the the Army's elite 82nd Airborne Division (search).

"We have more work to do, and there will be tough moments that test America's resolve. We are fighting against men with blind hatred — and armed with lethal weapons — who are capable of any atrocity ... They are trying to shake our will in Iraq — just as they tried to shake our will on September 11, 2001. They will fail," he said.

Democrats faulted Bush and said he wasn't being honest with the American people.

"The president has to understand when you find yourself in a hole, the first thing you had to do is stop digging," Rep. Charles Rangel, D-N.Y., told FOX News.

But Republicans said Bush did a good job of stating what was at stake in Iraq and they said Bush was right in not laying out deadlines for when U.S. troops would come home.

"That timetable will be dicated by events on the ground. I think that timetable will succeed," said Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., who acknowledged that the work ahead "will be long, hard and tough."

Congress on Wednesday will look further into the Iraq question with several hearings and events.

— Sen. John Warner (search), chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, is holding a morning hearing to review the reappointment of Peter Pace to the grade of general and to be chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff to replace Gen. Richard Myers.

— Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, chairwoman of the House International Relations Subcommittee (search) on the Middle East and Central Asia, is having an afternoon briefing with Richard Jones, the senior adviser to the secretary and coordinator for Iraq, on that country's transition to democracy.

— Sens. Jay Rockefeller, D-W.Va., vice-chairman of the Senate Select Intelligence Committee, and Jack Reed, D-R.I., of the Senate Armed Services Committee (search), are set to discuss the situation in Iraq as well as criticize the administration for its expected shortfall in the Veterans Affairs budget for this fiscal year.

Warner gave high marks to Bush for his speech Tuesday night and said he would use his hearing to give a chance to send a warning to lawmakers and others who would speak disparagingly about the effort in Iraq.

"We need to knock off this business of quagmires" and saying who is a patriot and who is not, said Warner, R-Va., suggesting that the troops on the ground in Iraq are hearing filtered news that would suggest to them that they are not getting the support they need from some back home.

"I think we're going to take it very seriously to watch our rhethoric, those of us in Congress, and also members of the administration in their rhetoric to make certain what we say can not be misconstrued [or] in any way shows a lack of support," Warner said.

In his nightime address, Bush laid out an extensive check list of accomplishments in Iraq as well as goals to achieve.

Bush argued that Iraq is the latest battlefield in the War on Terror and cited comments made by Usama bin Laden that the war will be fought and won or lost in Iraq.

"Among the terrorists, there is no debate," Bush said. "Hear the words of Usama bin Laden: 'This Third World War … is raging' in Iraq. 'The whole world is watching this war.' He says it will end in 'victory and glory or misery and humiliation,'" Bush said.

The president's remarks came after public opinion have shown lagging support for the mission in Iraq and a fatigue from news of daily terror attacks aimed at the Iraqi people and coalition troops.

Moderateman

on Jun 29, 2005

3 by Keithpup
Wednesday, June 29, 2005

Iraq why did the US invade?
What is the exit strategy?
What is the reason for staying?
Since no time frame is possible giving milestones to watch for would be good.

I want specifics, not generalities.

Moderateman

on Jun 29, 2005

7 by kingbee
Wednesday, June 29, 2005

when porter goss (speaking for the administration and the cia) says publicly that he is almost sure he knows where bin laden is...but we can't get him yet cuz of fair play and consideration for the national sovereignty of the county in which he believes bin laden to be hiding...

I believe if we KNEW where bin laden was we would have him, a force recon team or anyother special forces team should be able to get in and out with bin laden without a ripple,

goss {my best trump voice} YOUR FIRED.

Moderateman

on Jun 29, 2005

4 by Manopeace
Wednesday, June 29, 2005

was on a plane flying home so missed it...if I was home I would have missed it too...I'll get a synopsis on the Daily Show...on Comedy Central

did you have fun?

Moderateman

on Jun 29, 2005

5 by drmiler
Wednesday, June 29, 2005

guess either you didn't watch the speech at all or you failed to comprehend even one point that Bush made.

8 by Dr. Guy
Wednesday, June 29, 2005

have to agree with DR Miler. If you are still asking those questions, you did not listen to the speech.

gee what a shock that I agree with the docs.

Moderateman

on Jun 29, 2005

Reply By: Keithpup

By the way your use of the symbol of racial prejudice and hate really fits you. Have a swastica for your next post?

rude and totally unnecesary, please refrain from this behavior.

Moderateman

on Jun 29, 2005

I AM STILL WAITING FOR SOLUTIONS, .... COME ON FOLKS SHOW ME SOMETHING besides talking head rhetoric.

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