America has problems, but America is NOT THE PROBLEM!~
Nice, eloquent and well thought out
Published on June 5, 2005 By Moderateman In US Domestic
June 04, 2005
This Koran Nonsense
Liberals spend their entire existence -- all their energies, talents, time, and effort to defame, debase, ridicule, and denigrate religion. They fight religion (even Christmas trees) in court. They fight to keep it out of schools. They fight to keep poor kids from going to religious schools. They fight to remove it from our buildings, monuments, coins, and Pledge of Allegiance.

Liberals use millions upon millions of hours of entertainment to smear and stigmatize religious people. They stereotype and humiliate religion in every imaginable entertainment format they can conceive of. From comics, television, and movies, to music, novels, and video games.

Liberals flock to see and cry out to save and demand to fund with public dollars my Lord in a jar of piss and my Holy Mother made of dung.

Liberals cry theocracy at the drop of a hat. Liberals lie in history books, they lie on television, they lie in their films -- all with the single goal of stigmatizing religion to such a debilitating degree that it ceases to exist. Liberals want religion exterminated. And yet...

These same degenerate religious bigots actually have the gall to be horrified when their project works. They have the unbelievable nerve to be outraged when one of their creations treats the Koran with disrespect. What did they expect? People in the military have spent a majority of their lives held in the sway of liberal propaganda. They've been institutionalized in public schools, movie theaters, and anywhere else the mainstream media holds court -- to disrespect and loathe religion. That there have been so few incidents is a miracle.

Go read The Huffington Post. I won't link to them because they don't deserve it. But read their outrage at the rampage of their own Frankensteins. Read the New York Times, Newsweek, Time, the LA Times. These publications run the national debate. These publications are constantly and doggedly hostile to religion.

Until now, that is. Until now. These people are trash.

Note: Post updated with spelling corrections.

Posted by Dirty Harry at 02:22 PM in Politics |


you will notice dirty harry made sure there are no spelling mistakes, because as all people know, spelling to the educated liberal left is MUCH more important than content. The educated left are nothing but bullies, jumping on any slight mistake a person makes in order to demean and humiliate them. To think that our youth is being taught by the liberals is a gross crime, they do not mold minds, they twist them into a carbon copy of a party long dead, that no longer has morals, values nor a future in america, except as a second class power.

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on Jun 06, 2005
Reply By: James RovePosted: Monday, June 06, 2005The post by Dirty Harry has no evidence to back up his scathing accusations, just assertions


the greatness of amererica is we are allowed to voice our opinions, and all YOU have to do is pay attention to the news to see how the left is trying there very best to eliminate all public forums concerning religion.
on Jun 06, 2005
Reply By: little_whipPosted: Monday, June 06, 2005Notice that when I asked dabe for examples of lefty tolerance towards Christians she was stricken dumb?Thats what I mean when I say she has no coherent argument to present, just "this is bullshit, blah blah blah."I guess the fact that they haven't slaughtered us all is an act of tolerance as far as she's concerned.


I have noticed most of the left totally ignores questions that might refute there talkinghead points
on Jun 06, 2005
Reply By: Gideon MacLeishPosted: Monday, June 06, 2005Here's one for you:Liberals mock the working poor, apparently believing that doing nothing and getting a welfare check is of more societal worth than trying to stretch your dollars to feed your family.


amen gid
on Jun 06, 2005
Reply By: James RovePosted: Monday, June 06, 2005The post by Dirty Harry has no evidence to back up his scathing accusations, just assertions


the greatness of amererica is we are allowed to voice our opinions, and all YOU have to do is pay attention to the news to see how the left is trying there very best to eliminate all public forums concerning religion.




Actually....it isn't religion they are out to rid the world of...just Christianity
on Jun 08, 2005
Unfortunately, most of you conservatives continue to ignore an entire section of America that is very Christian and yet leans to the liberal side in so many ways. If you go to an African-American church, you will find an entire population of people who think that most conservatives still wear white sheets (and they are right about some) and firmly believe in God and the preservation of their right to religious freedom. To lump all liberals in one category is the same as saying the all conservatives hate the poor (even though they seem to quite often). Liberals aren't attacking what's right about this country, but trying to change what's wrong with it. Does this answer your question of liberal that tolerate Christianity, or will you, like everyone else, simply ignore the voice of the African-American community?
on Jun 08, 2005

Unfortunately, most of you conservatives continue to ignore an entire section of America that is very Christian and yet leans to the liberal side in so many ways. If you go to an African-American church, you will find an entire population of people who think that most conservatives still wear white sheets (and they are right about some) and firmly believe in God and the preservation of their right to religious freedom.

You see, you are putting the cart before the horse.  Conservatives are not ignoring them, but actively courting them because their beliefs and conservative beliefs are very similar.  But they vote Democrat for the reason that Little Whip states, plus Democrats always play the race card.

You can lead a horse to water, but you cant make him drink.  Conservatives can (and have) offer blacks an alternative, but they cannot make them take it.

on Jun 08, 2005
LW:

I have to say, your argument about "show instances of liberal tolerance towards Christians" is a bit weak. It's one of those unprovable statements because those who are tolerant of Christianity don't make any noise. They are fine with it, therefore they see no need to stand on the roof howling at the moon over it. I happen to know a lot of people who are both extremely liberal AND christian. They come from different churches, different backgrounds and different ethnicities.

You're taking the extremists and trying to generalize out to a much larger group. It's like saying that since the far right views homosexuality as an abomination, that the entire political Right is intolerant towards gays.

It's easy to point at the ones screaming on the other side of the fence and say that all who oppose your side are like that. They're the most visible, but it doesn't make them the majority. Conservatives have their own vocal minorities, and you guys HATE it when the left tries to lump you all together.

Tolerance (not acceptance) is typically shown through just keeping your mouth shut and going about your business... ignoring that which you do not necessarily agree with. Those on the left of the spectrum who are tolerant towards Christians far outnumber those who are intolerant.
on Jun 08, 2005
Like I've said in the past... I don't always jump in on the moron-fest posts from Dabe and crew because I don't see them. I jump in when one comes to my attention... Just because I don't jump up and down on Dabe every time she says something stupid doesn't mean I'm in agreement, it just means I either didn't see it or don't have time to post on it.

I think that's what happens with a lot of actually tolerant people... We have other things to do with our time than fight with every lunatic who climbs up on a soapbox.

These nutjobs are killing off the Democratic party right now. They're crushing it under their stupid venom-filled rants. They don't realize it any more than Christian Zealots realize they're turning people away from God. The difference between how I see it and how others see it, is that I think this needs to happen. The Democratic Party has no clear goals, no solid platform, no unified position... we used to have one, but we've honestly achieved most of our goals by this point. The Republican Party has had similar problems in its history where the extremists were in control and they alienated the public. What happened for the Right is that you all got your act together finally and realized how to get moving in the right direction again.

The Democratic Party needs to learn that same hard lesson. It may take them longer, but eventually someone in power in the party is going to realize "Holy crap... we've really botched this one" and start cleaning house.

Lunatics and extremists serve greater long-term goals at times... and not the goals they want to reach. Eventually everyone realizes they're lunatics and they're pushed to the side, hidden in corners, told to sit down and shut up. Anti-semetism was a pretty wide-spread feeling across the western world for centuries upon centuries. It was the status-quo really. Then you get Hitler and the Nazis and their plans for extermination... Now, it's no longer acceptable to harbor a prejudice that was common less than 100 years ago. Hitler in his own way did a great deal to combat racism, specifically anti-semetism, though it was never one of his goals.

I say let them burn out... let them self destruct. If they're meant to come back from it, they'll do so much stronger and better off as a result.
on Jun 08, 2005

When people like dabe post their rage and profanity filled articles like "My unequivocal whatever" ( I can't remember the exact name, but it was horribly misspelled) are you there chastising her for lumping all pro-lifers together as Bible beating morons?

In all fairness to Zoomba, he did write an article where he did a blanket condemnation of the loons of the left, and stated that was why he was moving to independant (but remaining liberal).  So while he may not jump all over every Dabe Post, he has stated he does not condone that behaviour and that it is turning off many rational liberals, or left of center people if you like.

on Jun 08, 2005
African-Americans vote Democratic because of the issues that impact them most. It's not because of 'feeling victimized by whitie'. Until you have spent time in the African-American community (which you obviously have not) you really shouldn't make assumptions about why they vote. There are African-American middle and upper class individuals who are college educated and very Christian who still vote very democratically.

Please take off you sheet and refer to the community as the African-American community (unless it's too hard to spell, then just don't reply). Affirmative action, while far from perfect, was meant to address an issue. Fact is, while we have made a great deal of progress, the opportunities for African-Americans are still not equal and their is still work to do. LW proves the very fact that racism still exists today.
on Jun 08, 2005

African-Americans vote Democratic because of the issues that impact them most. It's not because of 'feeling victimized by whitie'. Until you have spent time in the African-American community (which you obviously have not) you really shouldn't make assumptions about why they vote. There are African-American middle and upper class individuals who are college educated and very Christian who still vote very democratically.

In this case you dont know what the hell you are talking about.  If I was you, I would delete this post before you get your head handed to you on a platter.

on Jun 08, 2005
African-Americans vote Democratic because of the issues that impact them most. It's not because of 'feeling victimized by whitie'. Until you have spent time in the African-American community (which you obviously have not) you really shouldn't make assumptions about why they vote. There are African-American middle and upper class individuals who are college educated and very Christian who still vote very democratically


--Actually, i think they feel more inclined to the democrats because originally 99% of blacks (back in 1870's-->1940's/50's,) voted republican,it was then when southern republicans started segregation,etc...that a major switch took place...(thats what i've read,etc...)
on Jun 08, 2005
I did notice the Democrats intensely canvassing this neighborhood in the past election, picking up winos off the damn streets and passing out flyers that told people they did NOT HAVE TO REGISTER OR HAVE ID to vote!

Why? So they can cry "disenfranchisement" when these provisional voters fail to provide the proper documentation after the election, and the Dems end up losing, thats why. They don't give a shit about these people, I just wish the black community could see that.


--A funny thing is, this last election, i voted republican, but i live in a highly liberal/democrat driven city...and there were some Dem's going around my neighborhood...they came to my door (didn't realize who they were at first), i opened the door and said hi, they told me their names and asked if i was eligible to vote,i said yes, they asked if i was going to,i said yes, i asked which party they were from, they said democrat,I said i was republican and closed the door and went on my way,i peaked through the peep hole on my apartment door and saw them both standing their shocked, after a few seconds they left and went to the next apartment...

on Jun 08, 2005

southern republicans started segregation

Wrong.  Southern Democrats did that.  Wallace, Fulbright, Hollings anyone?

on Jun 08, 2005
There is nothing African about them other than the fact that their great great great great grandparents may have come from Africa. They don't speak African, they couldn't survive in Africa, and the majority of them have never BEEN to Africa. African-Americans my ass, they're Americans, period, but when a racial distinction needs to be made, i'll refer to them as Black. You, on the other hand, need to start referring to whites as Northern-Euro-Americans, ok? Unless that's too hard to spell.


You show your ignorance in your remarks. I am African-American. I have been to Africa multiple times. I live in a neighborhood that is not violent (being in a violent neighborhood does not mean that you know something about African-American culture, it simply means you probably have lower property values). I would like for an intelligent conservative to respond and not trailer trash with an internet connection.

In this case you dont know what the hell you are talking about. If I was you, I would delete this post before you get your head handed to you on a platter.


If you think that this is not true you should kindly try removing your head from David Dukes ass and start looking around.

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