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I am not an American. Like David Bowie, I wouldn't want to be one either. However, what I would like to know if you don't mind. You said that you came back from Vietnam and the LIberals gave you a hard time, right? What I really am curious about: Do you view your actions in Vietnam as part of a larger solution to the worlds problems?

2 by aeryck Friday, June 03, 2005

am not an American. Like David Bowie, I wouldn't want to be one either. However, what I would like to know if you don't mind. You said that you came back from Vietnam and the LIberals gave you a hard time, right? What I really am curious about: Do you view your actions in Vietnam as part of a larger solution to the worlds problems?

no I view my service to my country as the right thing to do, a country that took my immigrant parents in a country that gave my father the american dream by hard work, My father told me, "your country calls you, YOU answer"

Being a liberal doesn't mean pot brownies and a mass of complaints. It's about progressive thinking, unlike conservatives who are mainly about tradition. I am not for abortion, I am for the choice to have one or not. I believe that America is the land of the free and the home of the brave, therefore everyone should be given equal rights. Rights should not be taken away. I am a liberal.


Mod, I respect your views (I just don't agree with them )

Do you view your actions in Vietnam as part of a larger solution to the worlds problems?

Wow, Aeryck. That's one of the most asinine things I've read here on JU. Soldiers are called to trust their leaders to make appropriate use of their service. They do not make policy decisions; Soldiers follow orders. Our military victory and the safety of our nation depends on this.

Men like Moderateman have answered the call to sacrifice and experience great loss, torment, and sorrow for the good of our nation (as determined by our leaders). His service during Vietnam is a beautiful example of selflessness, endurance, patriotism, and duty, and regardless of yours or anyone's view of the Vietnam war, his sacrifice is to be honored.

yeah, mod, you've told us a gazillion times how you used to be a liberal. You sound like a broken record. Hmmmmmmm...... a broken record would be preferable.

#4 by alison watkins Friday, June 03, 2005

Being a liberal doesn't mean pot brownies and a mass of complaints. It's about progressive thinking, unlike conservatives who are mainly about tradition. I am not for abortion, I am for the choice to have one or not. I believe that America is the land of the free and the home of the brave, therefore everyone should be given equal rights. Rights should not be taken away. I am a liberal. Mod, I respect your views (I just don't agree with them )

your definition is WHAT A LIBERAL used to stand for alison. now all they do is trash tradition, obstruct, whine and cry.

and I love it when you disagree, you do it so intelligent and kind, not like one other here that is a coward.

Reply By: Texas WahinePosted: Friday, June 03, 2005Do you view your actions in Vietnam as part of a larger solution to the worlds problems?Wow, Aeryck. That's one of the most asinine things I've read here on JU. Soldiers are called to trust their leaders to make appropriate use of their service. They do not make policy decisions; Soldiers follow orders. Our military victory and the safety of our nation depends on this.Men like Moderateman have answered the call to sacrifice and experience great loss, torment, and sorrow for the good of our nation (as determined by our leaders). His service during Vietnam is a beautiful example of selflessness, endurance, patriotism, and duty, and regardless of yours or anyone's view of the Vietnam war, his sacrifice is to be honored.

thank you tex.

Reply By: dabePosted: Friday, June 03, 2005yeah, mod, you've told us a gazillion times how you used to be a liberal. You sound like a broken record. Hmmmmmmm...... a broken record would be preferable.

and you sound like a undercover mean person trying to change peoples minds about your mean, evil streak, also if i can donate some food to feed your kids let me know.

Moderateman, all I am getting from this thread is that you are a patriot. Bob Dylan said it well, ' Partiotism is the last refuge to which a scoudrel clings.' Changing from one desperate view to another simply because it does not match your world view, means you are still brainwashed by the Military. You are not the only one to have been trained for such a task, you are talking to an ex-marine. In a way it is like jumping from one sinking ship to another. .A.

Now that I think of it, I couldn't think of better taxpayers to take money from to feed my kids than mod and lw. Bwahahhahahahahaha .

Little_Whip, you derogatory comments are noted. The questions was not addressed to you. However, seeing you are trying to cleave in my skull, with words like 'mental deficient' and 'exceptionally low intelligence' ~ maybe you could answer this question. In the words of Bill Cosby, "Who made you the traffic warden here?"



.A.

10 by aeryck Saturday, June 04, 2005

Moderateman, all I am getting from this thread is that you are a patriot. Bob Dylan said it well, ' Partiotism is the last refuge to which a scoudrel clings

dlyan aka robert zimmerman help lead the war protest through his music, to quote him as an example of sane thought about being a patriot, something he never was is absurd.

12 by dabe Saturday, June 04, 2005

Now that I think of it, I couldn't think of better taxpayers to take money from to feed my kids than mod and lw. Bwahahhahahahahaha .

this is the third time I have afforded you the oppertunity for peace dabe, the third time I have lifted you blacklisting in the hopes of detant.. I now see it's a hopeless endevor, as will all bleeders the only voice that counts is the one in your head.

So you are closed to views of those who are not 'partiots'? Then why not learn a little wisdom from those who do not need to kill to learn that one should not kill. Brainwashing was used in my training as well, some of it was subtle and some of it was blatant, some was subliminal. In the end the product was that I was willing to do something without questioning my own mind. This is the only point I question in your decision to jump from the riketty platform of the liberals, to the decidedly submerged platform of the the patriots.

To end this, are you a patriot by the full power of your rational mind? or is it possible that certain aspects of your conditioning in the military have resulted in your decision to join the party that will sink this planet. .A. [Ableseaman Gunner-Marine]