And this is the cornerstone of the system America wants to impose upon the Iraqi people?
Hmm, no wonder it's not being perceived as a unanimous success ...

Having seen to many poor people get found "not guilty" and rich get put away, I'll just agree with you on the "innocent" part and excuse the rest as being over exposed to TV crime dramas. ;~D

Reply By: ParaTed2kPosted: Monday, March 07, 2005Having seen to many poor people get found "not guilty" and rich get put away, I'll just agree with you on the "innocent" part and excuse the rest as being over exposed to TV crime dramas

wanna bet that % wise less rich per capita get "put away" than poor?

Reply By: Furry CanaryPosted: Monday, March 07, 2005And this is the cornerstone of the system America wants to impose upon the Iraqi people?Hmm, no wonder it's not being perceived as a unanimous success ...

I said it sucked and was unfair, that i did!! but no where did i say there was anything better. can you think of a better judical system that america's?

moderateman,

This blog illustrates why I believe the names of the accused should be suppressed until after the trial, just as the names of alleged victims are currently SUPPOSED to be suppressed (although as the Kobe Bryant case readily shows, that doesn't happen...I and about a million others know and can readily provide the name of the accuser...but I digress).

wanna bet that % wise less rich per capita get "put away" than poor?

If it were just a matter of % of population sure, but there is a whole lot more to verdict, sentencing and other justice statistics than mere percentages.

btw, I'm not trying to say defend rich or poor, I just stated what I have seen.

Of course it isn't fair or equal, but then again fairness isn't fair and equality is never equal.

Reply By: ParaTed2kPosted: Monday, March 07, 2005wanna bet that % wise less rich per capita get "put away" than poor?If it were just a matter of % of population sure, but there is a whole lot more to verdict, sentencing and other justice statistics than mere percentages.btw, I'm not trying to say defend rich or poor, I just stated what I have seen.Of course it isn't fair or equal, but then again fairness isn't fair and equality is never equal.

agreed, but "fairness can be bought , rented, or outright perverted.

Reply By: Gideon MacLeishPosted: Monday, March 07, 2005moderateman,This blog illustrates why I believe the names of the accused should be suppressed until after the trial, just as the names of alleged victims are currently SUPPOSED to be suppressed (although as the Kobe Bryant case readily shows, that doesn't happen...I and about a million others know and can readily provide the name of the accuser...but I digress).

exactly!!! the "accused are filet, fried cut and tried way before trial even begins. The only chance you have if you a a psycho that can "charm" the dogs of the 4th column.

The problem with suppressing the names of the accused is that it would require a serious rewrite of the criminal code, and a significant reduction in the freedom of the press. In Australia a justice or magistrate can order a closed court, but that won't keep the press from knowing who's involved. Only children's court is actually fully closed, and even then I guess it wouldn't be too hard to dodge around the law and get out the name or photo of an accused if you really felt like it.

But perhaps it is time that courts took privacy seriously. The permanent black marks left on innocent people, even when they're acquitted, are a real problem that does need some kind of consideration.

Interesting article Moderateman.

Reply By: cactoblastaPosted: Monday, March 07, 2005The problem with suppressing the names of the accused is that it would require a serious rewrite of the criminal code, and a significant reduction in the freedom of the press. In Australia a justice or magistrate can order a closed court, but that won't keep the press from knowing who's involved. Only children's court is actually fully closed, and even then I guess it wouldn't be too hard to dodge around the law and get out the name or photo of an accused if you really felt like it.But perhaps it is time that courts took privacy seriously. The permanent black marks left on innocent people, even when they're acquitted, are a real problem that does need some kind of consideration.Interesting article Moderateman.

thanx cacto... I thought it was high time for someone to take a couple shots at what is considered fair in america on the judicial system.