Come now, some of us want to restore the progressive ideals of someone like Theodore Roosevelt. The left hasn't always called themselves "Democrats," now have they?

The party in the "wrong" hasn't always been the "Republican Party," either (they should have never impeached Andrew Johnson).

Labels are foolishness. I'm going to keep working, I know you will, too.

Cheers to you, Elie!

Sourmyr (Michael)r

Reply By: MyrranderPosted: Saturday, March 05, 2005Come now, some of us want to restore the progressive ideals of someone like Theodore Roosevelt. The left hasn't always called themselves "Democrats," now have they?The party in the "wrong" hasn't always been the "Republican Party," either (they should have never impeached Andrew Johnson).Labels are foolishness. I'm going to keep working, I know you will, too.Cheers to you, Elie!Sourmyr (Michael)r

ya did notice i lumped in old fart conservatives yeh? anyways I am getting tired of BOTH sides and might have to switch thinking again as I did in 2004.. maybe a republicate party of demlicans something in between,

And back at you michael my new friend

woomwood

We have the same problems with a "Liberal" party in Canada .... They go to the point of ridiculuous in policy And practice.
Fortunately we have a new Grassroots Conservative Party in opposition who will probably form the next Government.
I pray to God that they will bring a brief reprieve of common sense to our nation, at least for a time, before the insane
left takes over again. Why is it that the nutcake "lefties" seem to be abounding in not only politics, but the media as well?

I agree wholeheartedly - New Zealand does look better all the time!!!!!!!!

Contrary Cal
http://contrarycal.joeuser.com/bloglist.asp

I am getting tired of BOTH sides

Me, too!

What are we going to do? I've always thought that an "American Unity" party would be the best idea. Something the disenfranchised on all sides might be able to support. I'm open to suggestions for this.

We're all unhappy, that's why we keep blogging. The "Blog" party? I don't know. The "American Unity" party might be the best.

Cheers.

Mike

Look upon the old fart conservatives and their minions with fear and dread!! We like it that way .

The slow insidiousness of the Liberal wing of the Democratic Party is slowly but surely attempting to eliminate any real policies to help America, under the guise of “we know what’s best for the common man” With their attempts to remove all mention of God from all public forums this is the first step in the demoralization of America. If they succeed at this our demise will hasten ushering a time of immoral pagans praying to the almighty dollar. With liars like Mickey Moore, Hillary Clinton, Hanoi john Kerry, and Jesse Jackson, with move on .orc. {Yes orc} as the vanguard of this disrespecting of our own country, her values, her practices how can we as Americans expect to get any respect from the rest of the world? All the world sees of America is what their press and “news” stations want them to see. Al Gore shrieking the President betrayed his country, Ted Kennedy calling the President an outright liar, Howard Dean saying Bush knew of 9-11 ahead of time and said nothing, Idiots with not a single thought in their heads “protesting” on the streets, screaming Bush lied and you died. This is what the world sees of America, not our good deeds, not the kindness we offer, not the heroic acts of our patriots, no the screams and cries of a party long Dead, no power, no future, and not a single solution to any of today’s problems, not one, just complaints and proposals a freshman poli sci student can see thru. Add to this mix a bunch of old men republican conservatives and you now have a recipe for disaster that seems to already be in progress. Right thinking people need to somehow find a common ground and oust these morons in power from both parties. New Zealand is looking better and better all the time.

I like how you don't cite any examples and instead use vague blanket statements to attack Liberals.


Par for the course, eh?

We have the same problems with a "Liberal" party in Canada .... They go to the point of ridiculuous in policy And practice. Fortunately we have a new Grassroots Conservative Party in opposition who will probably form the next Government. I pray to God that they will bring a brief reprieve of common sense to our nation, at least for a time, before the insane left takes over again. Why is it that the nutcake "lefties" seem to be abounding in not only politics, but the media as well? I agree wholeheartedly - New Zealand does look better all the time!!!!!!!!

You think the Conservatives are going to win the next election? No offense, but what are you smoking? They couldn't beat Paul Martin right after the sponsorship scandal, and their polls are only going one way: down. And Stephen "dude, where's my charisma" Harper isn't helping them any. The only way they are going to have a remote chance is if they bring back a Progressive Conservative to lead, like Joe Clark or Belinda Stronach once she gets a bit more experience. But don't worry, as an NDP supporter, I am also condemned to dismay after every election.

Seriously though, can you give examples of this ridiculous policy and practice you speak of?

But at least we can find common ground. It looks like we both are sick and tired of the Liberals.

Reply By: BakerStreetPosted: Sunday, March 06, 2005Look upon the old fart conservatives and their minions with fear and dread!! We like it that way

I do not know if this is a comdemnation of the old farts or not. could you be clearer?

Reply By: Contrary CalPosted: Saturday, March 05, 2005We have the same problems with a "Liberal" party in Canada .... They go to the point of ridiculuous in policy And practice.

it's not just the insane left. it's the stodgie old fart conservative..

Reply By: Sinister RougePosted: Sunday, March 06, 2005

like how you don't cite any examples and instead use vague blanket statements to attack Liberals.Par for the course, eh?

of course YOU must be a liberal as I denounced the far right in the same way just with less words and examples of madmen, but as with all good leftwingers you must be tainted with "i see what I want to" part and parcel of the dreaded "democratic dementia" see a dr. now.

Reply By: MyrranderPosted: Sunday, March 06, 2005I am getting tired of BOTH sides Me, too! What are we going to do? I've always thought that an "American Unity

sounds good , a comming together of both sides..moderates of course

Reply By: latour999Posted: Sunday, March 06, 2005We have the same problems with a "Liberal" party in Canada .... They go to the point of ridiculuous in policy And practice.Fortunately we have a new Grassroots Conservative Party in opposition who will probably form the next Government.I pray to God that they will bring a brief reprieve of common sense to our nation, at least for a time, before the insaneleft takes over again. Why is it that the nutcake "lefties" seem to be abounding in not only politics, but the media as well?I agree wholeheartedly - New Zealand does look better all the time!!!!!!!!You think the Conservatives are going to win the next election? No offense, but what are you smoking? They couldn't beat Paul Martin right after the sponsorship scandal, and their polls are only going one way: down. And Stephen "dude, where's my charisma" Harper isn't helping them any. The only way they are going to have a remote chance is if they bring back a Progressive Conservative to lead, like Joe Clark or Belinda Stronach once she gets a bit more experience. But don't worry, as an NDP supporter, I am also condemned to dismay after every election.Seriously though, can you give examples of this ridiculous policy and practice you speak of?But at least we can find common ground. It looks like we both are sick and tired of the

Altho I know almost NOTHING of canadian politics... sounds like you fellas up there are having the same kind of crap problems .

oh my GOD me and latour agreeing ..

Al Gore shrieking the President betrayed his country, Ted Kennedy calling the President an outright liar, Howard Dean saying Bush knew of 9-11 ahead of time and said nothing, Idiots with not a single thought in their heads “protesting” on the streets, screaming Bush lied and you died.

I like how you don't cite any examples and instead use vague blanket statements to attack Liberals.

ummmmmm the above look like "statements and examples to me. how about you?

Latour: "What are you smoking'? OK, granola, I've had enough of your American-style bashing of Harper. I look forward to you starting a thread on your blog discussing Canadian politics, I'll be there with bells on.

Harper nearly led an eight month old party to victory; it was damn close, so it's hardly inconceivable that he'll win the next one. The polls are not going down for Conservatives and are failry meaningless at this point anyway. And if you think Belinda Stronach - the Paris Hilton of Canadian politics - is the Tories best bet (or even more improbable: Joe freaking Clark?) then I severely question your understanding of Canadian politics.

Harper is a good, decent man. He's a trained economist, not another %@!*#! lawyer, and unlike Jack (my dad was a Tory cabinet minister) Layton and Paul (so was my dad, only Liberal) Martin, he is a self made man and not a second generation political hack. Yes, his leadership and haircut have been subpar but he's only been on the job a little over a year. The Tories haven't even had time for a policy convention yet. Go ahead and vote for the best haircut if you want, I'll be voting for the best man for the job and the best policies.

Token on-topic take for the Modman: Liberal policies are destroying Canada too.

David St. Hubbins

Harper will never get the keys to 24 Sussex. He’s too, well, Albertan. Let’s face it, ever since the Bloc québécois was formed, the conservatives have absolutely no chance of winning Quebec. And without a solid control of Quebec, it’s VERY hard to get a majority government. Their only chance would be to get Ontario. However, most Ontarians are scared of Harper (just look at what happened during the last election). Stronach is a viable option, she’s just young. Give her a couple years. The only other hope for the Conservative party would be Bernard Lord, but he doesn’t seem to have any plans of running for the federal government.

All in All, you can expect see another decade of Liberals dominating the House in Canada (you should be scared of Martin’s successor if you think he’s “too liberal”)