Joseph Goebbels,Reincarnated in Bill Moyer’s body?

Propaganda just isn’t for Nazi’s anymore

Published on February 8, 2005 By Moderateman In Politics

While I am sure liberals {far far left} will not like this comparison, it’s true.

Bill Moyer that Grammy getting “news man” and “commentator” extraordinaire is nothing but a shill for the far left wing of the Democratic Party.

He spews lies that are picked up by far left newspapers and then presented as truth.

It is truly criminal that he is allowed to receive public funding to spread his propaganda.

How is it that being so one sided, can even be interrupted as fair and balanced?

He is heralding Howard dean as the savior of the Democratic Party.

Yayyyyyyyy This makes me happy.

If Howard dean and Bill Moyer are indicative of what the democrats want to represent them, all I have to say is. Go democrats go.

Now with Nancy Pelosi being hailed as a moderate democrat by the guardian paper of Sanfrancisco and hanoijohn Kerry the best the Democrats have to offer, with Hillary coming up on the inside and Ted Kennedy as their statesman. Things just keep getting better and better for us republicans.
Now I have stated things rationally with no venom so if any democrats read this TRY to behave the same way.. OR PAPA SPANK!! WorldNetDaily James Watt: Moyers' article put false words in my mouth Minneapolis Star Tribune (subscription), MN - 16 hours ago A blogger brought to my attention an Op Ex article by Bill Moyers that appeared in the Jan. 30 Star Tribune entitled, "There is no tomorrow.". ... Moyers apologizes to Watt for smear WorldNetDaily Bill Moyers Apologizes to James Watt for Apocryphal Quote Editor & Publisher A great column, a weasel's correction Power Line WorldNetDaily - all 6 related »

Comments (Page 4)

Dr Guy

on Feb 10, 2005

Go do your own homework. Read Geneva. That's the law that was broken.

Deal with it.

See? You are wrong again! No Law was broken. You are grasping at straws and failing to even catch the hay. But nice non-answer. You are out of them, but then you never had any.

Dr Guy

on Feb 10, 2005

Um, you called me 'left of Mao'. So I guess, as the first act of name calling, would be 'game over' by your definition

left of Mao is not name calling, unless you are ashamed to be called a leftist. Where did you go to school? massachuttes? Are you even out of school?

ProgressiveUSA

on Feb 10, 2005

wow you are amazing , you sure have pegged me right.

Hey thanks!

I guess I will just have to follow YOUR example of fair and balanced then huh? maybe switch parties? become a leftwing democrat?

Naw. Just abide by true conservatism. I can respect that. I disagree with most of it, but I respect it.

Moderateman

on Feb 10, 2005

Reply By: ProgressiveUSAPosted: Thursday, February 10, 2005

Naw. Just abide by true conservatis

well then I will have to withdraw my support of a womans right to choose, gun control, stemcell research, conservation and other issues, but if it makes you happy I will be glad to do so... NOT!!!!!!!!!!

ProgressiveUSA

on Feb 10, 2005

BTW, why are you so afraid of the liberal label? You are not a progresive. A progressive is open to new ideas and new ways to do things.

Well, that's a fair statement, but it's not accurate. Here's the American Heritage® Dictionary definition of progressive:

1 - Moving forward; advancing.
2 - Proceeding in steps; continuing steadily by increments: progressive change.
3 - Promoting or favoring progress toward better conditions or new policies, ideas, or methods: a progressive politician; progressive business leadership.

It's not simply change for the sake of change. Or something new just because it's something new.

I don't like the word liberal because I don't think it says anything. It's a misnomer, just like 'conservative'. There's nothing conservative about torture, preemptive war, etc.

ProgressiveUSA

on Feb 10, 2005

Reply #49 By: Citizen Moderateman - 2/10/2005 1:14:15 PM wrote:

well then I will have to withdraw my support of a womans right to choose, gun control, stemcell research, conservation and other issues, but if it makes you happy I will be glad to do so... NOT!!!!!!!!!!

If those are really your positions, good for you. I've read some of your other posts and you give no hint of any of that.

ProgressiveUSA

on Feb 10, 2005

Repeat: None so blind as those who do not see.

I gave you your answer. You refuse to see it.

Here's another one, Mr StickMyHeadInTheGround:

<
WASHINGTON — In an extraordinary disclosure of classified material, the Bush administration released 258 pages of internal documents Tuesday that portray harsh interrogation techniques — including stripping terror suspects and threatening them with dogs — as a necessary response to threats from al-Qaeda terrorists.>>

Link

drmiler

on Feb 10, 2005

And terms like "hanoijohn" and 'spew lies

i HAVE A VALID REASON TO intensly dislike hanoijohn and will continue to call him that,.just as I refer to jane fonda as hanoijane.

I'm not fonda kerry either!

Moderateman

on Feb 10, 2005

Reply By: ProgressiveUSAPosted: Thursday, February 10, 2005BTW, why are you so afraid of the liberal label? You are not a progresive. A progressive is open to new ideas and new ways to do things. Well, that's a fair statement, but it's not accurate. Here's the American Heritage® Dictionary definition of progressive:1 - Moving forward; advancing. 2 - Proceeding in steps; continuing steadily by increments: progressive change. 3 - Promoting or favoring progress toward better conditions or new policies, ideas, or methods: a progressive politician; progressive business leadership.

thats the dictionary defintion of liberal. but not even close to what liberals stand for these days, nice try, but as usual "no cigar"

drmiler

on Feb 10, 2005

Reply #46 By: Citizen Dr. Guy wrote:

See? You are wrong again! No Law was broken. You are grasping at straws and failing to even catch the hay. But nice non-answer. You are out of them, but then you never had any.

Repeat: None so blind as those who do not see.

I gave you your answer. You refuse to see it.

Here's another one, Mr StickMyHeadInTheGround:

<
WASHINGTON — In an extraordinary disclosure of classified material, the Bush administration released 258 pages of internal documents Tuesday that portray harsh interrogation techniques — including stripping terror suspects and threatening them with dogs — as a necessary response to threats from al-Qaeda terrorists.>>

Link

Okay Mr. Smartguy.... have you read the Gonzales memo? I really don't think you have so let me help.Link

Both the Office for legal counsel AND the DOJ told him it was okay. But oh no according to you guys this is ALL Bushs fault.

ProgressiveUSA

on Feb 10, 2005

Reply #45 By: Citizen Moderateman - 2/10/2005 wrote:

I see so the simple knowledge denotes guilt

Simple knowledge? C'mon dude. You can't be serious.

It was a series of memos leading directly to GWB through DOJ and DOD and WH counsel specifically about what torture techniques could be used under Geneva. Ultimately, the WH declared Geneva obsolete -- that was 'loophole' they settled on in order to allow torture. Hello?

That's policy-making -- not 'simple knowledge.'

Face it: You're living in a fantasyland of spin. And it doesn't have to be that way.

Dr Guy

on Feb 10, 2005

I don't like the word liberal because I don't think it says anything. It's a misnomer, just like 'conservative'. There's nothing conservative about torture, preemptive war, etc.

Fair enough and well written. I will call you a left leaning progressive. And as for the definition, I think progressives come in conservative and liberal flavors. Altho the definition of a conservative is ' to stay the course', I think that in many ways Conservatives are being progresive. The New SS plan to name just one. It is moving forward and procedding in steps, and it is trying to make progress on an issue that must be fixed.

On the last, I think all agree, it is only the method of the fix, not that there is a problem. Ponzi schemes always inevitably fail.

Dr Guy

on Feb 10, 2005

I see, but not your point. And how was that a violation of the GC? First it was not a violation of the GC, and second, if you read the GC you find that it applies to soldiers in uniform for another country, not spies and terrorists. Nice try tho, but you are arguing blue when the issue is pink.

ProgressiveUSA

on Feb 10, 2005

thats the dictionary defintion of liberal.

Wrong. Link

Deal with it.

but not even close to what liberals stand for these days, nice try, but as usual "no cigar".

Really? What do you think 'liberals' stand for? A womans right to choose, gun control, stemcell research, conservation and other issues?

ProgressiveUSA

on Feb 10, 2005

First it was not a violation of the GC, and second, if you read the GC you find that it applies to soldiers in uniform for another country, not spies and terrorists.

Well, that's exactly the loophole Team Bush used. I don't know if it's been tested in court. Maybe you do.

But the memo trail shows how they arrived at that conclusion: They started by seeking legal use of torture. And this is where they ended up.

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