more attacks from the left

Published on January 10, 2005 By Moderateman In Politics

To those dickheads who think that it's OK for people to treat other people like this, you're disgusting piles of trash. I would hope that you be on the receiving end of this "non-torture"., but I couldn't even wish it on anybody. You're all a disgrace to the American flag, the American way of life, to any global humanity. These things are not "torture-lite", although I understand the idea that Cactoblasta was trying to make. Moderateman (in particular), may you rot in hell, you sick bastard....>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This lovely fair and balanced opinion was posted by dabe..... as you can see if anyone disagrees with the representaives of the luniticleft this is what you get... trashed , slandered, and prayers for your death..

The whole point of my what is torture post is to say.... we are fighting a people bent on our destruction and play by no rules at all. why do we afford them the courtesy of geneva convention rules when they behead, slaughter and maim innocent people, maybe as cactoblasta said the use of torture is an abomination..

But my opinion is that so called torturelite, if it saves one life is ok, and I am not going to change my mind.

on a side note while some of you folks are crying foul about my thoughts and want to play nice in the sandbox with the terrorist try to remember THEY WILL MAIN , KILL YOU TORTURE YOU JUST BECAUSE YOUR AN AMERICAN... or if your not american but just disagree with them they will also do such horrors to you.your mind cannot imagine it... you will tell yourself ,but i was fair and wanted them to be treated better and with respect and that will not make one iota difference to them... they are bent on the total destruction of democracy. glad to know I fought inna war so I can be called unamerican and a disgrace to the american flag...but then again I fought for the american way and free people to be able to voice there opinions whether i agree with them or disagree with them..

Comments (Page 4)

Moderateman

on Jan 11, 2005

when did I lose this blog....? its has become the blog of the living I told ya so.. lighten up people

Dr Guy

on Jan 12, 2005

Bold a different part and you see to what I was referring.

When an incorrect statement is made, and a correction is offered, why is that being mean? Just because I told her to make it more plausible was not an insult to her, just a warning that some of us would not take blanket statements as gospel, without accompanying documentation. If that is being mean, I feel sorry for you as you will have many people being 'mean' to you, especially in your chosen profession.

Dr Guy

on Jan 12, 2005

This sub plot involves known terrorist masterminds being intercepted on foreign territory, and taken down after "resisting arrest" by a military paratrooper unit.

This is correct, but as you correctly point out, they were not 'feigning resisting' arrest, they were resisting arrest. It was not a trick to kill them on the spot, but a legitimate operation where they would not surrender.

By your own logic, anyone killed in the commission of a crime was just murdered and the act made to look like an accident. Hardly what I would call a gracious statement on any law enforcement agency period.

And while I do take offense when mis-quote, I suppose so do authors, especially of their work. Any wonder that Frank Herbert never allowed Dune to be filmed in his lifetime? SO I do not see where I have to 'lighten up'. I did not insult or degrade you. Andif a slight rebuke is the worst you have ever gotten, then you are indeed a fortunate individual bordering on perfection.

Deference

on Jan 12, 2005

THEY WILL MAIN , KILL YOU TORTURE YOU JUST BECAUSE YOUR AN AMERICAN

They will? Should we be like them, then? Should we set the proper level or sink to theirs?

Stop trying to justify all the Bush Admin.'s mistakes - they are too numerous. And your rhetoric is too weak.

Bleah!

Moderateman

on Jan 12, 2005

franks vision could not be put to film I have seen 2 diff films "dune" and they both sucked bigtime... while the book was awsome, thought provoking and a good read.

Dr Guy

on Jan 12, 2005

Stop trying to justify all the Bush Admin.'s mistakes - they are too numerous. And your rhetoric is too weak.

Now that is the pot calling the Kettle black.

sandy2

on Jan 12, 2005

Dr. Guy, while the actual event involved an actual resisting arrest takedown, the sub plot regarded what the paratroopers would do with the people (assuming the didn't resist arrest). They deemed it impossible to try them in a civilian court because they could never let the world know of the planned attack. They decided they would have to kill the people by getting them to "resist arrest". Lucky for them, the people really did resisit arrest.

Deference

on Jan 12, 2005

Now that is the pot calling the Kettle black

It's a shame there isn't much else in your verbal arsenal besides tired old cliche` already worn thin by this forum.

Moderateman

on Jan 12, 2005

Reply By: DeferencePosted: Wednesday, January 12, 2005Now that is the pot calling the Kettle blackIt's a shame there isn't much else in your verbal arsenal besides tired old cliche` already worn thin by this forum.

ok then hows this... so fucking what! he made a mistake a horrendous mistake..... so what? Now does admitting bush made a mistake somehow justify your constant attacks on him? NO does it bring back the 3000 dead from the twin towers? NO does it bring back our dead military? no does it mend any torn and maimed bodies? no now name me one just one wartime president that has not made a mistake.. can ya smart guy?

Moderateman

on Jan 12, 2005

Reply By: DeferencePosted: Wednesday, January 12, 2005THEY WILL MAIN , KILL YOU TORTURE YOU JUST BECAUSE YOUR AN AMERICANThey will? Should we be like them, then? Should we set the proper level or sink to theirs?Stop trying to justify all the Bush Admin.'s mistakes - they are too numerous. And your rhetoric is too weak.Bleah!

and YOUR LEFTWING BLEEDING HEART RHETORIC IS ANY BETTER??? I am not justtifying anything bush did, This whole thing is about the lack of support and constant snipeing the left does , just as YOU are doing now.

Deference

on Jan 13, 2005

Now Moderateman, calm down!

Allow me to address your points here...

ok then hows this... so fucking what! he made a mistake a horrendous mistake..... so what?

I am not justtifying anything bush did, This whole thing is about the lack of support and constant snipeing the left does

It doesn't matter who is in office, when the C.I.C is making wrong calls, I'm going to call 'em like I see 'em. You're ignoring my point, that, despite all the prior evidence and outcry, our elected officials are screwing up. Look at Clinton, he supported NAFTA. Some would say that's not a mistake, but there is quite a bit of fallout from that debacle, much worse then incorrectly engaging an intern. Jimmy Carter? Poor guy, probably the least effective and incompetent pres. in history. I really don't give a flying ----- what party the C.I.C. comes from as long as I see that the guy is acting according to U.S. citizens best interests, at large. I have an extra beef when supporters of a screw-up C.I.C. try to cover for him for party affiliation / agenda reasons. There's no "sniping from the left" here.

and YOUR LEFTWING BLEEDING HEART RHETORIC IS ANY BETTER???

This is not a sentimental issue, it is one of looking ahead. The U.S. is the "shining city on the hill" as the "Great Orator" mentioned. That's why it receives so much criticism. It must reach the highest brass ring attainable to effectively lead the world by example.

As for 9/11, our gov't alloted much less money for the investigation for it as opposed to the "blowjob" incident, don't you think the families of victims of 9/11 deserve better? I'll remember those dead, but the only "attack on America" I've seen is a highly dubious spectacle resulting in a "narrowing of the noose" on citizen taxpayer rights via law.

drmiler

on Jan 14, 2005

Reply #56 By: Deference - 1/13/2005 10:50:19 PM
Now Moderateman, calm down!

Allow me to address your points here...

ok then hows this... so fucking what! he made a mistake a horrendous mistake..... so what?

I am not justtifying anything bush did, This whole thing is about the lack of support and constant snipeing the left does

It doesn't matter who is in office, when the C.I.C is making wrong calls, I'm going to call 'em like I see 'em. You're ignoring my point, that, despite all the prior evidence and outcry, our elected officials are screwing up. Look at Clinton, he supported NAFTA. Some would say that's not a mistake, but there is quite a bit of fallout from that debacle, much worse then incorrectly engaging an intern. Jimmy Carter? Poor guy, probably the least effective and incompetent pres. in history. I really don't give a flying ----- what party the C.I.C. comes from as long as I see that the guy is acting according to U.S. citizens best interests, at large. I have an extra beef when supporters of a screw-up C.I.C. try to cover for him for party affiliation / agenda reasons. There's no "sniping from the left" here.

BS!!!! Don't say there's no left-wing sniping here, cause that's crap. You seem to forget that democrats also believed the same shit Bush did and OK'd the use of force in Iraq.

and YOUR LEFTWING BLEEDING HEART RHETORIC IS ANY BETTER???

This is not a sentimental issue, it is one of looking ahead. The U.S. is the "shining city on the hill" as the "Great Orator" mentioned. That's why it receives so much criticism. It must reach the highest brass ring attainable to effectively lead the world by example.

As for 9/11, our gov't alloted much less money for the investigation for it as opposed to the "blowjob" incident,

And just HOW much investigation do you need to find out what happened? Idiots flew 2 airplanes into buildings case closed, next case.

drmiler

on Jan 14, 2005

Reply #51 By: Deference - 1/12/2005 12:47:14 PM
THEY WILL MAIN , KILL YOU TORTURE YOU JUST BECAUSE YOUR AN AMERICAN

They will?

Yes, they will!

sandy2

on Jan 14, 2005

BS!!!! Don't say there's no left-wing sniping here, cause that's crap. You seem to forget that democrats also believed the same shit Bush did and OK'd the use of force in Iraq.

NO. WRONG. They took the liberty to trust our C.I.C., a mistake that will NOT be made again. Bush falsified things to congress and misled them. In the business world, such things are known as fraud. The victims of fraud are not held responsable for the actors misdeeds.

Dr. Miller, I have decided you have got to be one of the most irrational doctors I have ever met.

drmiler

on Jan 14, 2005

Reply #59 By: sandy2 - 1/14/2005 7:52:24 AM
BS!!!! Don't say there's no left-wing sniping here, cause that's crap. You seem to forget that democrats also believed the same shit Bush did and OK'd the use of force in Iraq.

NO. WRONG. They took the liberty to trust our C.I.C., a mistake that will NOT be made again. Bush falsified things to congress and misled them. In the business world, such things are known as fraud. The victims of fraud are not held responsable for the actors misdeeds.

Get it RIGHT! Bush falsified NOTHING! He just parroted what he was told by his supposed intelligence angencies. So your precious Democrats ate the same line of BS that Bush did! Your spin on this, ain't changing it.

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