more attacks from the left

Published on January 10, 2005 By Moderateman In Politics

To those dickheads who think that it's OK for people to treat other people like this, you're disgusting piles of trash. I would hope that you be on the receiving end of this "non-torture"., but I couldn't even wish it on anybody. You're all a disgrace to the American flag, the American way of life, to any global humanity. These things are not "torture-lite", although I understand the idea that Cactoblasta was trying to make. Moderateman (in particular), may you rot in hell, you sick bastard....>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This lovely fair and balanced opinion was posted by dabe..... as you can see if anyone disagrees with the representaives of the luniticleft this is what you get... trashed , slandered, and prayers for your death..

The whole point of my what is torture post is to say.... we are fighting a people bent on our destruction and play by no rules at all. why do we afford them the courtesy of geneva convention rules when they behead, slaughter and maim innocent people, maybe as cactoblasta said the use of torture is an abomination..

But my opinion is that so called torturelite, if it saves one life is ok, and I am not going to change my mind.

on a side note while some of you folks are crying foul about my thoughts and want to play nice in the sandbox with the terrorist try to remember THEY WILL MAIN , KILL YOU TORTURE YOU JUST BECAUSE YOUR AN AMERICAN... or if your not american but just disagree with them they will also do such horrors to you.your mind cannot imagine it... you will tell yourself ,but i was fair and wanted them to be treated better and with respect and that will not make one iota difference to them... they are bent on the total destruction of democracy. glad to know I fought inna war so I can be called unamerican and a disgrace to the american flag...but then again I fought for the american way and free people to be able to voice there opinions whether i agree with them or disagree with them..

Comments (Page 2)

Solnac

on Jan 10, 2005

but will you die for this same principal?

Yes, but not under the guise of 'for this country' or any other. The right to say what you need to is sacred, even if you do piss me off when you say it.

Moderateman

on Jan 10, 2005

Uh Mod... That's what the statement "to the death!" means. Let me change the phraseology a bit. "I may disagree with every word you say, but I will defend your right to say it unto death itself.

I know this, but I was asking HER if she would die to defend MY right to be an ass and say anything I wanted too... get me?

sandy2

on Jan 10, 2005

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but will you die for this same principal?

Yes, but not under the guise of 'for this country' or any other. The right to say what you need to is sacred, even if you do piss me off when you say it.

Amen

Moderateman

on Jan 11, 2005

Reply By: SolnacPosted: Monday, January 10, 2005but will you die for this same principal?Yes, but not under the guise of 'for this country' or any other. The right to say what you need to is sacred, even if you do piss me off when you say it.

then I salute you... and appreciate your post now...

Moderateman

on Jan 11, 2005

Reply By: sandy2Posted: Monday, January 10, 2005[/quotbut will you die for this same principal?Yes, but not under the guise of 'for this country' or any other. The right to say what you need to is sacred, even if you do piss me off when you say it. Amen

I raise your amen and add a blessing. smiles

Moderateman

on Jan 11, 2005

Reply By: sandy2Posted: Monday, January 10, 2

and I owe you an apoligy for my comments on another one of my posts........

jeblackstar

on Jan 11, 2005

better???? or just out of touch with reality.... when someone is beating your brains in telling them there better than that does not stop them

Once again, I am not saying we shouldn't fight the terrorists, we just shouldn't lower ourselves to their standards.

To use your metaphor, if someone was beating my brains in, I would stop them, probably break their arm, and throw them in jail.

Cheers

drmiler

on Jan 11, 2005

Reply #22 By: jeblackstar - 1/11/2005 3:18:20 PM
better???? or just out of touch with reality.... when someone is beating your brains in telling them there better than that does not stop them

Once again, I am not saying we shouldn't fight the terrorists, we just shouldn't lower ourselves to their standards.

To use your metaphor, if someone was beating my brains in, I would stop them, probably break their arm, and throw them in jail.

Cheers

Sorry but if someone is trying to *beat my brains in* that I am in fear for my life. At which point I'm gonna shoot the SOB!

Moderateman

on Jan 11, 2005

Reply #23 By: drmiler - 1/11/2005 3:48:42 PM

Reply #23 By: drmiler - 1/11/2005 3:48:42 PM

Reply #22 By: jeblackstar - 1/11/2005 3:18:20 PM
better???? or just out of touch with reality.... when someone is beating your brains in telling them there better than that does not stop them

Once again, I am not saying we shouldn't fight the terrorists, we just shouldn't lower ourselves to their standards.

To use your metaphor, if someone was beating my brains in, I would stop them, probably break their arm, and throw them in jail.

Cheers

Sorry but if someone is trying to *beat my brains in* that I am in fear for my life. At which point I'm gonna shoot the SOB!

and there in lies the crux of the problem, if they are prisoners we cannot kill them, but bending floding and putting a dunce cap on there heads ain't a bad plan.

jeblackstar

on Jan 11, 2005

Why can't we kill them? I'm not opposed to a Kangaroo Court, string em up I say. I'm just saying that torture and public executions do two things. 1. Create Martyrs, 2. Create Greater Hatred.

So, since martyrs and hatred are what terrorists thrive off of, the best way to deal with captured terrorists is to make them "disappear".

Cheers

Moderateman

on Jan 11, 2005

Reply #25 By: jeblackstar - 1/11/2005 4:40:17 PM
Why can't we kill them? I'm not opposed to a Kangaroo Court, string em up I say. I'm just saying that torture and public executions do two things. 1. Create Martyrs, 2. Create Greater Hatred.

So, since martyrs and hatred are what terrorists thrive off of, the best way to deal with captured terrorists is to make them "disappear".

Cheers

when we "hide" one of them, the left and international community goes nutso. Imagine if they just "disappeared"

sandy2

on Jan 11, 2005

when we "hide" one of them, the left and international community goes nutso. Imagine if they just "disappeared"

I will go "nutso" because this administration disapears outstanding citizens who are not terrorists without reson for some suspicon and no trial. All prisoners should be tried in international court for war crimes or US court under the terror laws, but in a civilian court to give them the rights we owe all people.

jeblackstar

on Jan 11, 2005

I'm not saying we don't tell people we've got them and give them a trial, but if you sensationalize it, i.e. torture, or as a prime example, Abu Ghraib, people get upset. Execute them for crimes that can be proven, people will accept it. Or, for that matter, kill them on the battlefield, or "while resisting arrest". Sure some whakos might cry conspiracy, but then again, a few months ago, there was a serious discussion about "secret prisons" being built disguised as weather stations.

Cheers

sandy2

on Jan 11, 2005

Or, for that matter, kill them on the battlefield, or "while resisting arrest".

There was a Tom Clancy book based on this premise that they couldn't try them because they could never let the public know the terror threat that was planned so they killed them while resisting arrest.

Dr Guy

on Jan 11, 2005

Wrong plot and or author. try again. And I have all of the Tom Clancy novels, so try to make it more plausible this time.

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