America has problems, but America is NOT THE PROBLEM!~
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Published on October 8, 2007 By Moderateman In War on Terror
 

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 Definition of torture:

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torture[1,noun]torture[2,transitive verb]

Main Entry: 1tor·ture
Pronunciation: 'tor-ch&r
Function: noun
Etymology: French, from Late Latin tortura, from Latin tortus, past participle of torquEre to twist; probably akin to Old High German drAhsil turner, Greek atraktos spindle
1 a : anguish of body or mind : AGONY b : something that causes agony or pain
2 : the infliction of intense pain (as from burning, crushing, or wounding) to punish, coerce, or afford sadistic pleasure
3 : distortion or over refinement of a meaning or an argument : STRAINING

now please do not make me define anguish and agony cause I will........

again I say for the dense..

Making a room 95 degrees is not TORTURE.... its damn uncomfortable.

Playing loud music (90 decibels} is not Torture is just mind numbing

Making a room cold 40 degrees is not TORTURE... it is very uncomfortable.

Making someone stand in place is NOT TORTURE.

Putting a blindfold on someones head is not torture... its scary period.

I am tired of the left twisting my words so the outcome is as they choose../

for the fainthearted I will now list some torture beware your bleeding heart might rupture.

Slamming slivers of bamboo on fire under your toenails is torture

Pulling your tongue out and cutting it off is torture.... Saddam did this on a constant basis. So do the Terrorists we are fighting and worse.

Cutting someone hands off in stages from the fingers upwards is torture... Saddam also did this. We have proof that the Muslim lunatics do this also.

Gassing someone with chemical agents is torture Saddam did this also

Cutting off someones ears is torture Saddam also did this. We have proof the Muslim Terrorists do this too.


Can any of you  name one instance in THIS WAR where we did anything approaching the true definition of torture?

Do any of you have proof that America has done anything besides a bunch of unsubstantiated rumors that we have engaged in any of this kind of horrendous behavior?


 



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on Oct 08, 2007
i have a feeling that prolonged tickaling can be torture or at least that is what i have heard from the left.
on Oct 08, 2007
Everything you mentioned is a level of torture. Not that I have problem with any of it but it’s still torture.

Thing is none of these mild torture methods work, this has been proven. Subjects simple tolerate it for a while then fain a convincing “I can’t take it anymore”, then give false information. It’s a useless practice that helps their propaganda effort more than it yields any useful intel for us.

The only forms of torture that have ever even showed limited results are mind altering drugs and the forms of torture that exist well outside of any gray area. Do you think a captured American soldier work crack if subjected to any of these baby tortures?

If were going to take the rap for torturing prisoners, heavy psychotropic drugs are considered to be the most effective.
on Oct 08, 2007
then there was the torture that the Muslims cited. that was when a US soldier was eating a ham sandwich.
on Oct 09, 2007
Do any of you have proof that America has done anything besides a bunch of unsubstantiated rumors that we have engaged in any of this kind of horrendous behavior?


Pelosi doesn't need proof.  It's just part of their agenda to make sure terrorists are not harmed in any way.
on Oct 09, 2007
Let's come to terms..those who govern the culture's language govern the culture.

Torture? Here's another sombering look at it---We've tortured 50 million and counting in this country.....


What about saline scalding, and surgical dismemberment or in late term--puncturing the base of the skull and vacuum suctioning their brains?
on Oct 09, 2007
term--puncturing the base of the skull and vacuum suctioning their brains?


murder
on Oct 09, 2007

Reply By: Zoologist03Posted: Monday, October 08, 2007
I think think that's on the edge, it makes you feel like you are drowning {I Know this because part of what I went through was similar to this, for resisting it} but causes no damage to the person. it's mind game thing.


Water boarding could be mental torture...but I doubt it would leave any lasting effects...so I suppose you could go either way.

This so called water boarding has been around a long time, I remember a form of it applied to our own troops, by our own troops all the way back in 1964. Am I to take it I was being tortured by our own troops and I was a willing participant?

on Oct 09, 2007

Reply By: stubbyfingerPosted: Monday, October 08, 2007
Everything you mentioned is a level of torture. Not that I have problem with any of it but it’s still torture.

Thing is none of these mild torture methods work, this has been proven. Subjects simple tolerate it for a while then fain a convincing “I can’t take it anymore”, then give false information. It’s a useless practice that helps their propaganda effort more than it yields any useful intel for us.

Do you really think any information given under those circumstances is taken as the gospell truth? of course NOT! it is used as a starting point, then they start looking for CONFIRMATION.

on Oct 09, 2007

Reply By: danielostPosted: Monday, October 08, 2007
i have a feeling that prolonged tickaling can be torture or at least that is what i have heard from the left.

I have a feeling you are right and that would also include yelling at him too.

on Oct 09, 2007

i have a feeling that prolonged tickaling can be torture or at least that is what i have heard from the left.

That's what my old girl friend said too.

on Oct 09, 2007
all of this tells me that torture is subjective. like what smells bad or tastes bad.
on Oct 09, 2007
This so called water boarding has been around a long time, I remember a form of it applied to our own troops, by our own troops all the way back in 1964. Am I to take it I was being tortured by our own troops and I was a willing participant?


This is used in Navy Seal Training as well as the Marines.

Being these groups are the first line in they are more at risk of being caught. Alot of that was to give you some experience so it didn't catch you off guard.
on Oct 09, 2007
like what smells bad or tastes bad.


oooo for me that would be subjecting me to eat plain oatmeal.

YUUUUUUUUCK!
on Oct 09, 2007
danielostOctober 8, 2007 23:47:17


then there was the torture that the Muslims cited. that was when a US soldier was eating a ham sandwich.


or being questioned by a female.
on Oct 09, 2007
Adventure-DudeOctober 9, 2007 13:32:03


This so called water boarding has been around a long time, I remember a form of it applied to our own troops, by our own troops all the way back in 1964. Am I to take it I was being tortured by our own troops and I was a willing participant?


This is used in Navy Seal Training as well as the Marines.


ummmmm I know, I was there and experienced it, it left no permanent damage to me, or maybe it did, hahahahahahahahahah
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