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Published on August 8, 2007 By Moderateman In Current Events

Pope Meets Priest Accused of Anti-Jewish Remark

From the Associated press, Another "CHRISTIAN'' SHOWING some true colors.

This is why I have little or almost no respect for Christians in general.

ROME — Pope Benedict XVI met this week with a Polish priest who has been accused of making anti-Jewish comments. Photos showing the pope at his summer residence with, Father Tadeusz Rydzyk along with two other Polish priests, were published in Polish newspapers yesterday.

The Vatican has not commented on the meeting. But a Vatican official confirmed yesterday that the three were brought to the pope, along with other pilgrims, after the pontiff's weekly public blessing Sunday in Castel Gandolfo, his summer home. Father Rydzyk was allegedly caught on tape saying Jews are greedy and that President Kaczynski of Poland is subservient to Jewish lobbyists.


Nothing like a Catholic priest perpetuating the fallacy that all JEWS are Greedy. Yay Christians! Once again caught with their pants down, oops no that is another story. Shows you that in their hearts they still blame the JEWS for killing another JEW called Jesus, so much for forgiveness huh?

 

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on Aug 09, 2007

most on sunday, some on saturday, the jews on saturday. and christ said it didn't matter which day as long as it was the same day ever week. or something like that.


Please show me the scripture and verse where Jesus says this.
on Aug 09, 2007
While I have given ears to this for many years now, and have even run across some for real Christians, those that live as Jesus did, they are a rare find and the exception, not the rule.


As a Christian who is a "for real" Christian, I feel I am less qualified to judge on this than you are. For the simple reason that, among Christians, EVERY group considers itself the only "for real" Christians. While I am certain of my own standing, I am less certain of others. I don't know their hearts and can't judge. So I'll defer to you on that front.

BUT, the issue was about Christians persecuting Jews. If the majority of Christians persecuted Jews, the Holocaust never would have ended. Even in the darkest hours of Nazi Germany, the "Confessing Church" was hard at work trying to fight against Hitler's actions. For their service, loyal members such as Deitrich Bonhoeffer were hunted down and placed concentration camps. Bonhoeffer was executed on special order of the Fuhrer less than a month prior to the fall of Berlin.

Baptist parents teach their children that the US must remain a friend to Israel because God's promise to Israel has not fully been fulfilled. Baptists are hardly a rarity. Many other churches (including Calvary Chapel and several Pentecostal churches) have taken similar positions.

As to the Catholics, while I am unaware of the Vatican's current standing, i know many Catholics who are not the Jew haters of the past. Most Christians, in my experience, do not persecute Jews.

most on sunday, some on saturday, the jews on saturday. and christ said it didn't matter which day as long as it was the same day ever week. or something like that.


No. Christ did not. PAUL talked about man esteeming one day over another.

Sunday is NOT the Sabbath. Christians have no authority to make such a change. Sunday was observed for worship because 1) many early Christians worshipped in synagogue on the Sabbath; and 2) it is traditionally the day of Jesus' resurrection.

The reason many Christians do not observe the Sabbath any more is because they believe we were liberated from observance of the Sabbath, not because the day was changed. If the day of Sabbath can change, then God can change, and every individual's salvation is resultingly suspect.
on Aug 09, 2007
(Citizen)Gideon MacLeishAugust 9, 2007 13:22:46


YOU were one of those I mentioned that fall in the "live as Jesus does" catagory Gid. You are a good man, {although a bit touchy, but hey who am I to cast stones over being touchy about some things?}
on Aug 09, 2007
(Citizen)Adventure-DudeAugust 9, 2007 13:15:17


most on sunday, some on saturday, the jews on saturday. and christ said it didn't matter which day as long as it was the same day ever week. or something like that.


Please show me the scripture and verse where Jesus says this.


what part of "wasting your time trying to educate danielost" did you not understand?
on Aug 09, 2007
Most Christians, in my experience, do not persecute Jews.


By what you described Gid I would agree. Most Christians do not go out and kill or support the oppression of Jews. But to me persecution isn't just about physical abuse. I have been in many Christian churches and they speak anti-semitic remarks not even knowing what they are saying. This is where I lean more to 'most.'
on Aug 09, 2007
(Citizen)Adventure-DudeAugust 9, 2007 13:05:49


While I was sleeping my friend, I see that you have been handling things here quite well. I thank you for that.


Did ya have dreams of going to Kyrgyzstan????


AD my friend, while I am deeply honored at your unrelenting wanting me to be there at your wedding, it is just not to be, now please stop with the JEWISH GUILT. it's killing me that I cannot {not to be confused with will not} attend.
on Aug 09, 2007
AD my friend, while I am deeply honored at your unrelenting wanting me to be there at your wedding, it is just not to be, now please stop with the JEWISH GUILT. it's killing me that I cannot {not to be confused with will not} attend.


Ok, I'll leave it be. Just wouldn't want you think I didn't want ya there. Besides it's the Jewish way to let you know you are loved (at least that's what the Jewish mothers say).


Hmmm, maybe I'll be ambitious and put up an article and pictures for JU to see?
on Aug 09, 2007
What I find amazing is christians who do not actually know the scriptures but prefess ignorance as truth because thats what they were taught Lucifers lies and deceptions. People can fight over religon all they want but in the end it is the people who have found the truth of covenant and are returning to that covenant are going to win while everyone else is fighting. The Covenant is given and eternally given to a People who want to quit their pagan ways for holy ways,this covenant is know as the covenant of Israel that is restored through the resurrection.

Last of all quit misquoting Paul and actually read what he wrote for what he wrote is found in the Tanach or the christian o.t.,for the verse about sabbaths,foods,new moons,feast days was to a community of believers who were living torah about not letting the pagans judge them out of what is holy and right,well 1682 yrs of fight Lucifer and his pagan followers have won the battle but not the war. For more and more are finding the truth of Pauls letters and are leaving their churches for home churches and messianic syngogues,why because people are tired of Lucifer and his prince Iesus,the name Jezus has been in use for 281 yrs now.

Want truth go read and I mean read,study,and do comparison studies and you will see the lie the christian system has put on the people 1682 yrs ago.
Pastor Terry
Truth and Knowledge Messianic Ministries

P.S. Yes I am a true name fanatic,why? Because I know who I am worshipping thats why.
on Aug 09, 2007
jeremiah3131August 9, 2007 16:05:59


Want truth go read and I mean read,study,and do comparison studies and you will see the lie the christian system has put on the people 1682 yrs ago.
Pastor Terry
Truth and Knowledge Messianic Ministries

P.S. Yes I am a true name fanatic,why? Because I know who I am worshipping thats why.


Very cool, I will check these out, I appreciate the paths for more knowledge.

MM
on Aug 09, 2007
please you who so much smarter than me. when god rested on the 7th day. where does it say it was on Saturday or Sunday or Monday or Tuesday or Wednesday or Thursday or Friday, or whatever your name for those days.

please oh smarter than me tell me where it says that in genesis.
on Aug 09, 2007
If the day of Sabbath can change,


if man changes the day that we worship god and it happens every 7th day as per the law. tell me why does god care.


also well we are on the subject. do jewish nurses and doctors and firemen and police officers take the sabbath off no matter what.
on Aug 09, 2007
In his article MM writes:

Father Rydzyk was allegedly caught on tape saying Jews are greedy and that President Kaczynski of Poland is subservient to Jewish lobbyists.

Nothing like a Catholic priest perpetuating the fallacy that all JEWS are Greedy. Yay Christians! Once again caught with their pants down, oops no that is another story. Shows you that in their hearts they still blame the JEWS for killing another JEW called Jesus, so much for forgiveness huh?


Hi MM,

I'm late getting into this discussion and haven't thoroughly read all the comments, so I hope I'm not boring everyone by repeating.

I've done what I can to get more information on this AP story and haven't come up with much.

You and I have talked about similiar topics before on one of your other blogs. You should know by now that I deplore anti-Semitism whether it's coming from Catholics or anyone for that matter. Anti-Semitism is a form of hatred.

I don't see this situation, as I read it from the links, as anti-Semitic. Is suggesting that Jews are greedy really anti-Semitic language or just an insensitive case of name-calling?

Are some Jews greedy? I’m sure we can all agree that yes, there are greedy Jews in this world. Are all Jews greedy? No, of course not.

I find some of the comments made in the link as well as yours jumping the gun well beyond the scope. What I mean by that is according to the links Fr. Rydzyk is allegedly accused of "suggesting that Jews are greedy". Here you bump that up to Fr. Rydzyk “perpetuating the fallacy that ALL Jews are greedy. Please MM, is it the truth that some Jews are greedy or not? And is saying so anti-Semitic? I think not.

So why make the leap from the Jews are greedy to ALL Jews are greedy? And why jump from that to saying that this shows in their heart they (Christians-Catholics) still blame the Jews for killing Jesus?

You've done well if it was just to get another rather vibrant discussion going.

on Aug 09, 2007
what day of the week do priests rest on
on Aug 09, 2007
what did god do on his day off. stay in bed with the covers over his head. or did he buy icecream for his at least 7 billion kids.
on Aug 09, 2007
MM writes:

Shows you that in their hearts they still blame the JEWS for killing another JEW called Jesus, so much for forgiveness huh?




Concerning who was guilty of our Lord's sufferings and death. Neither the malice of the chief priests by their false accusations, nor the weak compliance of Pilate could have caused Our Lord's death had not God willed that His Incarnate Son was to die to redeem us from sin and eternal punishment. It's all our sins, MM, that bear the real burden and guilt of Christ's sufferings and death. It's our sins that cry out, "Crucify Him". By our sins we nailed Him to the Cross.

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