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Published on August 8, 2007 By Moderateman In Current Events

Pope Meets Priest Accused of Anti-Jewish Remark

From the Associated press, Another "CHRISTIAN'' SHOWING some true colors.

This is why I have little or almost no respect for Christians in general.

ROME — Pope Benedict XVI met this week with a Polish priest who has been accused of making anti-Jewish comments. Photos showing the pope at his summer residence with, Father Tadeusz Rydzyk along with two other Polish priests, were published in Polish newspapers yesterday.

The Vatican has not commented on the meeting. But a Vatican official confirmed yesterday that the three were brought to the pope, along with other pilgrims, after the pontiff's weekly public blessing Sunday in Castel Gandolfo, his summer home. Father Rydzyk was allegedly caught on tape saying Jews are greedy and that President Kaczynski of Poland is subservient to Jewish lobbyists.


Nothing like a Catholic priest perpetuating the fallacy that all JEWS are Greedy. Yay Christians! Once again caught with their pants down, oops no that is another story. Shows you that in their hearts they still blame the JEWS for killing another JEW called Jesus, so much for forgiveness huh?

 

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on Aug 13, 2007
AD writes:

Lula,

I am still waiting for YOUR answer to Post 131 and also the scripture reference for 139.

If you say no to either one of these or in your case a avoided non-answer will suffice to show ModerateMan's point of this article. Catholicism's roots are anti-semitic on a very fundamental level.


and I wait patiently.
on Aug 13, 2007
little-whipAugust 13, 2007 18:04:10


My resume? It's irrelevant, because I haven't laid claim to ANY qualifications which would render my opinion on things any more valid, accurate, or superior than anyone elses. If I told you I had earned the title 'High Priestess of Chaos' in the IOT, would it make any difference? How about 'Cthulhu's Handmaiden?' 'Zen Goddess of Chocolate Chip Cookies?'


how about High Goddess of all things wonderful? and most high Priestess of everlasting faithful friend?
on Aug 13, 2007
Like I said,and quote,I KNOW I MISSPOKE,I KEEP FORGETTING YOU HAVE TO HAVE PAPER TO SHOW YOUR INTELLIGENCE,I AM SORRY I SPOKE OUT OF TURN,I KEEP FORGETTING HOMESCHOOLED KNOWLEDGE IS WORTHLESS UNLESS YOU HAVE PAPER AND I KEEP FORGETTING THIS.

So lets drop it,unless you want to keep dredging it up then the sin is upon you,for I said my sorrys 3 times now,but I will always defend the right to be homeschooled and to show that because you do not go to college does not mean you cannot study all the same,or studying outside the box from a broader view on your own with the Spirit guiding you.

So PEACE to who wants to take it,to those who do not abstain from writing about me or to me,I offer my hand..........
Pastor Terry
on Aug 13, 2007
Adventure-Dude #152

No where in scriptures do I see that NOW the Christians are the chosen ones. Please either give me scriptural reference or retract this statement.

Gentiles were included with Israel as righteous converts. Numbers 15:29 address this. Gentiles were grafted in.


Before I even continue with this discussion I would like to have an answer to my request from post 139.


I apologize in advance that your short challenging question requires such long replies.

Israel became a “chosen” , a “special people” (Deut. 7) through a single person, Abram, selected by the Lord God. Abram was to be magnified his name being changed to Abraham, “the father of many nations”. Gen. 17:5. From Abraham came Isaac, whose son Jacob’s name was changed to Israel. Jacob was the father of the 12 sons who became the fathers of the 12 tribes of Israel. The children of Israel (later called Jews) where chosen by the Lord God to be the keepers, teachers and interpretators of His Law. This Law included a priesthood selected from the tribe of Levi; the selection of Judah as the tribe from which the promised Messias, the Son of David, would come to fulfill the Law.

The Jews were especially favored by being the chosen people from whom all the great prophets came, through whom the Lord God told the world of the great things that were to take place in Israel until “God Himself would come and save them.” Isa. 35:4; 40:10. The Jews were the only specially selected people in the world with whom the Lord God made a Covenant, a contract so to speak, in the days before the coming of the Messias as the Talmud says, “All the prophets prophesied only to the days of the Messiah” (Sandh. 99a).

This Covenant was a bilateral contract, in the sense that the reward the Lord God promised would go to the “elect” IF they were faithful to His commands and prophecies. The Lord God told Moses to tell the Jews that---

If you will hear My voice and keep My covenant, you shall be My peculiar possession above all people.....and you shall be to Me a priestly kingdom and a holy nation.” Exodus 19:5-6.

Aside from the fact that the Jews are no longer a “priestly kingdom” (being without priests, sacrifices or temple ever since 70AD), there stands the command of Moses which they fail to obey that bars present-day Jews from calling themselves the Lord God’s “chosen people.” Moses command was that they listen to the “prophet” the Lord God would send, whom “thou shalt hear” Deut. 88: 4-5.

The prophet was to be not like Joshua whom Moses invested with the leadership of Israel; not like other prophets who functioned in Israel before the beginning of the Christian era, but like Moses. He was to be a mediator between man and the Lord God, but more excellent than Moses. Moses was a servant of the Lord, whereas He was to be the Lord Himself. David told of Him, as did Isaias and a host of others among the Lord God’s elect. IN the Psalms,

"I (the Lord) have made a covenant with My chosen, I have sworn to David My servant: Thy seed will I establish FOR EVER, and build up thy throne TO ALL GENERATIONS” 89:3.

For while this throne of David was to be occupied by Solomon an earthly king, then, in the fullness of time, was to begin the reign of the “begotten” son of David, a spiritual king whose reign would continue “FOR EVER”.

Where can that throne of David be that was to last “for ever” save in the spiritual throne occupied by the Messias, the Son of David? The King of the Jews came, the priesthood, the sacrifices and temple of the Jews ceased to exist; there is no house of David in existence today in which a future Son of David can be born, being no longer needed, as the Abrahamic-Mosaic contract was fulfilled 20 centuries ago.

The claim of the Jews today, that they are the chosen people who, to quote Rabbi Lee J. Levinger, Director of Research Bureau, B’nai B’rith Hillel Foundation, have “an obligation to teach the entire world of the one God and the coming of the Messiah” is necessarily “a constant incitement to criticism.” (Anti-Semitism Yesterday and Tomorrow.” NY, 1936). Such a claim inferentially classifies Christians as dullards, for they harkening to the Prophet Moses told future generations “to hear” believe as St.Paul says that Christians are

all the children of God through faith in Jesus Christ (the Prophet of prophets). For all you who are baptized have put on Christ... You are all one in Christ Jesus. And if you are Christ’s, then are you the offspring of Abraham, heirs to the promise.” Galatians 3.


This is the basis that through Christ and in Christ we Christians are Abraham’s descendants. In this sense, we are all Semites spiritually. That’s the principle upon which St.Peter based his declaration, “ You (followers of the Messias) are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a purchased people.” 1St.Peter 2:9. So, here the ‘children of the promise” those who accept Jesus Christ as the Prophet Moses said should be heard, are the chosen people.

This is not in the least interpreted to mean that the Lord God has abandoned the present day Jews. The very existence of the Jews, despite persecutions to which they have been subject, proves that Almighty God “has not cast off His people” as St.Paul tells us Rom. 11. He patiently awaits their coming into His embrace.

Gentiles were included with Israel as righteous converts. Numbers 15:29 address this. Gentiles were grafted in.


As the greatest Jewish convert of them all, Saint Paul of Tarsus, teaches, “there is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female. For you are all one in Christ Jesus.” Gal. 3:18.

Scripture speaks of the dramatic end of the Old Covenant and the beginning of the New and Eternal Covenant in the Blood of Christ. St.Paul teaches, Christ is the “seed” of Abraham and thus whoever is incorporated into Him, that is into His Mystical Body, inherits the promise the Lord God made to Abraham and becomes a member of Almighty God’s covenant people. The Scriptural teaching of this can be found by reading Galatians 3:16-17.

It makes it clear that the fulfillment of the promise the Lord God made to Abraham is seen in Christ, who is Abraham’s seed, not in the Law of Moses, for if salvation were by operation of the Mosaic Law, then it would not have come from the Lord God’s promise to Abraham. The purpose of the Law was to teach (to be a “pedagogue”) and to punish transgressions until Christ should come. The Law could not of itself give life, but it did prepare the way for the fulfillment of the promise of Abraham and the giving of grace and faith with the coming of Christ.

Since Christ, we are no longer under the Mosaic Law, the pedagogue. For now faith has come and the baptized who have faith in Christ are the children of the Lord God and the heirs of the Abrahamic covenant perfected in Christ. And while the Jewish people remain most dear to the Lord God for the sake of the patriarchal fathers, nevertheless because of unbelief they were broken off from the olive tree which is Christ. But, ‘if they abide not still in unbelief , shall be grafted in; for God is able to graft them in again.” Rom. 11:20-23, 28.
on Aug 13, 2007
KEEP FORGETTING HOMESCHOOLED KNOWLEDGE IS WORTHLESS UNLESS YOU HAVE PAPER AND I KEEP FORGETTING THIS


Nobody's saying your knowledge is worthless, Terry. You're just getting ridiculous now. You seem to have a lack of understanding of what it takes to obtain a Master's degree.

You must write a dissertation, and it must be PEER REVIEWED. You can't just say, ok, I read so many books, I have a Master's. You need to not only have the knowledge, but PROVE the knowledge.

If you had started off saying "I've read x book, y book, studied Hebrew, Greek and Latin on my own and am well versed in the scriptures of x, y, and z religions", I doubt you would have had a hard time being taken seriously. It is because of a SPECIFIC claim that we took you to task.

So much lies in the presentation, Terry. So much.
on Aug 13, 2007
Ok typing in tongues again,I am sorry I said I had two master degrees,all I have is 30+ yrs of study on the topics,this is what I should have stated,and I let my fingers override my common sense and stated a lie but not a lie,a lie I have the degree's, but not the lie of yrs of study that is the truth,homeschooling myself thats the truth for the teachers could care less about if I graduated or not,so I went my own way and looked to different teachers to teach,alot of them were through the Books they wrote.

So I mispoke,and will be more careful in the future not to do this again....But I will not stop teaching that I cannot do and will not do...
Pastor Terry

So lets move on and get where we need to be in the scriptures learning how to return to the Promise which was taken and hid in 325-329 a.d.
on Aug 13, 2007
jeremiah3131August 13, 2007 18:40:24


So lets move on and get where we need to be in the scriptures learning how to return to the Promise which was taken and hid in 325-329 a.d.


may I ask what is the promise which was taken and hidden in 325-329 A.D.?
on Aug 13, 2007
'Zen Goddess of Chocolate Chip Cookies?'


i like chocolate chip cookies zap me some.
on Aug 13, 2007
there are three types of Christian Church's.


1 the catholic church.


2 the Protestants


3 the restoration


of course most Christians will think that the Protestants and the restoration Church's are the same.
on Aug 13, 2007
may I ask what is the promise which was taken and hidden in 325-329 A.D.?
Those were the big yrs for the formation of the Universal/Christian system and its rotten foundation,they tried misuing the prophets and apostles to promote a fake religon instead of promoting sinless torah observant lives like Yahshua and His Talmud taught.

Why do you think so many believers misquote and stick to only misquoting the Good News and not preach much of how to live the lives Messiah and His Father wants us to live,to Love Yahweh-1-4 of the commandments,love one another 5-10.
Yahshua did not change his hebrew upbringing,it was the universal church that made him a roman.

It is pretty interesting studying how the cracks started in 70 a.d. and built up til 312 when Constantine was given a vision on how to place the believers under bondage,and by 329 the base was finished and all the pagan temples became christian temples,all the artwork is pagan with rewrote names,even the cross of Tammuz is promanate in the Sanctuaries adorning the fronts of their false churches.

Mod,you have alot more base in knowledge on the scriptures then alot of christians I know personally,see Yahshua did not come for Judah they had Torah,instead he came for Israel who were divorced from Torah.
Pastor Terry
on Aug 15, 2007
The claim of the Jews today, that they are the chosen people who, to quote Rabbi Lee J. Levinger, Director of Research Bureau, B’nai B’rith Hillel Foundation, have “an obligation to teach the entire world of the one God and the coming of the Messiah” is necessarily “a constant incitement to criticism.” (Anti-Semitism Yesterday and Tomorrow.” NY, 1936). Such a claim inferentially classifies Christians as dullards, for they harkening to the Prophet Moses told future generations “to hear” believe as St.Paul says that Christians are


Lula if they aren't the Chosen people still then why in the world do we care about Israel? Why was it so important in 1948 to reestablish Israel? Ezekiel, Zechariah, etc all still have prophecies that point to the coming Messiah. If the Christians replaced the Jews as the Chosen People, then there is no need for the fulfilling of Obidiah.

As the greatest Jewish convert of them all, Saint Paul of Tarsus, teaches, “there is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female. For you are all one in Christ Jesus.” Gal. 3:18.


Paul did not stop being Jewish after his life changing moment.

Acts 18:12-18 addresses this very issue. He was brought before the court, accusing him for 'persuading men to worship G-d contrary to the Law.' In verse 18 we see he shaved his head, "for he had a vow." Which vow does this relate to? It is widely known as the Nazarite vow found in Numbers 6:18-21.


If Paul converted FROM Judaism to 'Christianity' (leaving behind Judaism) then why would he take the Nazarite Vow?

Now your comment about Peter in 1 Peter 2:9. First of All Peter was still a Jew as well. In Acts 10-11 we see his vision of the clean and unclean animals (Kosher animals) a Jewish way of thinking. Peter in Acts 10:28 he says, "...G-d hath showed me that I should not call any man common or unclean." You see Jews did not associate themselves with Gentiles even if they did convert. If Peter left behind Judaism then why would he mention separation of Gentiles and Jews (himself being considered a Jew here)?

1 Peter 2:9 is different parts of the Torah being repeated. "But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should show forth the praises of him who hath called you out of the darkness into the marvelous light:"

Here are some Torah References:
-Exod. 19:5-6 "Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people for all the earth is mine: And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and a holy nation. These are the words which though shalt speak unto the children of Israel."
-Deut. 7:6 "For thou art an holy people unto the L-RD thy G-D: the L-RD thy G-D hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth."
-Deut. 14.2 "For though art a holy people unto the L-RD they G-D, and the L-RD hath chosen thee to be a peculiar people unto himself, above all the nations that are upon the earth."

Hopefully, you see that with both Peter and Paul are still Jews even after their conversion. They became Messianic Jews (Jews that believe that Yeshua (Jesus)was the Servant Messiah (Meshiach bin Yoseph). They did not do away with Torah and their Jewish ways.
on Aug 15, 2007
To say that Peter and Paul walked away from Judaism completely is false and suggests the person/institution who says they did is anti-semitic for they speak in contrast to that which they were.

on Aug 15, 2007
Lula, I am still patiently waiting to hear YOUR answer about keeping Torah (see Post 131).
A simple yes or no would suffice.

Do you keep Torah today?
on Aug 15, 2007
there are three types of Christian Church's.


1 the catholic church.


2 the Protestants


3 the restoration


of course most Christians will think that the Protestants and the restoration Church's are the same.


What was not mentioned all this is is reformed catholisism,for the foundation of rome was not changed just the way the body of rome operates...It isn't about religon,its about being a Holy Nation,a Nation that is seperate from every other nation..

The Constatine system made the nation of Israel into a Mythraic religon,be like taking one of the worlds goverment and there laws and making a religon out of it,how would you like to use the laws of Saudi Arabia and make a religon out of their goverment,or the USA,or France,or Italy,etc.

No wonder the world is messed up,for deception is ripe,and no one seems to care for truth much these days,go read,pick up the Bible or a History book..
Pastor Terry
on Aug 15, 2007
there are three types of Christian Church's.


1 the catholic church.


2 the Protestants


3 the restoration


of course most Christians will think that the Protestants and the restoration Church's are the same.




the restored church has nothing to do with the catholics.

i don't know the scripture but christ said that there would be a falling away and in the latter days the real church will be restored. however a small group would carry the truth until the last days.

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