America has problems, but America is NOT THE PROBLEM!~
But we might be headed that way....
Published on June 13, 2007 By Moderateman In Religion
 

The most common Polls show that over 90 Percent of the country Believes in God, that alone shows we are NOT yet a secular nation.

The far left Secular Progressives {gag} continue to try and push the country into a secular mindset, but so far they continue to fail. Why you might ask. See above. 90% of the country believes in GOD.

Europe has become a collection of Secular nations and we see the results, Poor economies, Poor morals, lousy ethics and most of all the people have a huge sense of ENTITLEMENT. Give me! is the watch word of the day. Give me food, Give me shelter, Guarantee me that I will have a place to live and shelter myself if I NEVER WORK A SINGLE DAY IN MY LIFE. This attitude of Secular Progression {gag} is crippling the countries of Europe, with huge taxes to pay for the bums and malcontents, it causes a huge drain of the governments ability to do things like defend themselves, prosper and grow.

The result of this attitude resulted in 15,000 deaths in 2003 in France when the power went out in August and the workers were on the traditional Month vacation and refused to come back to repair the electrical grid, Which powered the air conditioners in a summer that saw record heat waves..

Living on the "DOLE" is a way of life in England. Worse than our welfare.

As long as we have a country where the Majority of people believe in GOD the force feeding of Secular progressive {gag} Ideals and Ideas will NOT take hold.

God help us if somehow the far left loons and their secular progressive {gag} Agenda takes over the country, who knows where it will lead to, possibly the banning of religion. Some proof of this is how religion has become an anathema in politics {courthouses, statehouses, government owned lands, Schools}.More proof is the many suits against states, counties with crosses on the flags, the pledge of allegiance {they want it gone} The money we use {they want in God we trust removed} God is being attacked from the loony left secular progressives {gag} and we people of faith in GOD must fight back.

 


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on Jun 22, 2007

Reply By: shadesofgreyPosted: Wednesday, June 20, 2007
Really, there isn't a back and forth thingie between myself and Texas and certanly no problem here on my part. Her calling for a barfing smily only told me she doesn't understand Catholicism...and that's OK.


Funny, I agreed with Tex's comment, and I'm a catholic -- do I not understand catholicism as well? Maybe you don't mean to be, but you come across as very condescending and judgemental.

So Shades you think it is ok for a Catholic to promote Abortion? in ALL its forms?

on Jun 23, 2007
KFC and lulapilgrim,

I have no interest in debating religious dogma with either of you or anybody else. I understand that it's an interesting/important topic for some, but it is not for me.

I see hate in this article as well as most articles posted here at JU, and yes, this does make me sad. JU used to be a better place than it is now; and I haven't seen any signs that things will improve.

As I stated in my first post in this thread, this is not an attack against anybody; it's just me stating how I feel.

on Jun 23, 2007
Because it's hateful and exactly the type of thing Jesus would not do.


.... this is not an attack against anybody; it's just me stating how I feel.


Abe, I'm not going to belabor this as you seem to want to bow out of the discussion, however, I find your position all along somewhat disingenuous. Do you not expect to be challenged when you post slings and arrows such as:

Because it's (Lula's letter applying fraternal correction to Sen. Kerry) hateful and exactly the type of thing Jesus would not do.


and then say you have no interest in debating relious dogma?

OR,

I know there are many people out there like lulapilgrim and that most of them will never change. They will spend their lives sowing hate and making us all the worse of for it.


and then say for the second time that this is not an attack against anybody; it's just me stating how I feel?

Well, Abe, as to your opinion as to how you FEEL, "They will spend their lives sowing hate and making us all the worse of for it", I would reply that, as a Catholic, I try my best to distinguish between the growth following God's rules and those of man's in the progress of the culture and society in which I live and am a part of.





on Jun 25, 2007

Reply By: Abe CubbagePosted: Saturday, June 23, 2007
KFC and lulapilgrim,

I have no interest in debating religious dogma with either of you or anybody else. I understand that it's an interesting/important topic for some, but it is not for me.

I see hate in this article as well as most articles posted here at JU, and yes, this does make me sad. JU used to be a better place than it is now; and I haven't seen any signs that things will improve.

As I stated in my first post in this thread, this is not an attack against anybody; it's just me stating how I feel.

Abe? you might think it comes off as "it is just as I feel" but it sure reads like a attack and a hatefull message. then to abandon things with "I do not care to debate with you" after crapping all over lula is well.... cowardly

on Jun 25, 2007

Reply By: lulapilgrimPosted: Saturday, June 23, 2007
Because it's hateful and exactly the type of thing Jesus would not do.



.... this is not an attack against anybody; it's just me stating how I feel.


Abe, I'm not going to belabor this as you seem to want to bow out of the discussion, however, I find your position all along somewhat disingenuous. Do you not expect to be challenged when you post slings and arrows such as:


Because it's (Lula's letter applying fraternal correction to Sen. Kerry) hateful and exactly the type of thing Jesus would not do.


and then say you have no interest in debating relious dogma?

OR,


I know there are many people out there like lulapilgrim and that most of them will never change. They will spend their lives sowing hate and making us all the worse of for it.


and then say for the second time that this is not an attack against anybody; it's just me stating how I feel?

Well, Abe, as to your opinion as to how you FEEL, "They will spend their lives sowing hate and making us all the worse of for it", I would reply that, as a Catholic, I try my best to distinguish between the growth following God's rules and those of man's in the progress of the culture and society in which I live and am a part of.

I totally agree with everything you say here lula. sorry it took so long to get back to this thread.

on Jun 25, 2007

We people of GOD MUST FIGHT, be more vocal. fight for OUR RIGHTS THE SAME WAY THOSE of the unbelievers fight for THEIR rights.

Be proud!! stand up and shout! WE BELIEVE IN GOD AND WE AIN'T GOING TO LET YOU UNBELIEVERS REMOVE "HIM' FROM OUR SIGHT!!

 

fight! fight! fight!

on Jun 25, 2007
There are some people out there who aren't loving their neighbor - and I HATE people like that!
on Jun 25, 2007
(Citizen)JythierJune 25, 2007 17:09:20


There are some people out there who aren't loving their neighbor - and I HATE people like that!


to quote the Emperor from Star war." Good, good I can feel the hate, take up your weapon and strike me down, feel the power of the dark side."
on Jun 25, 2007
When will they learn that the force is controlling them?
on Jun 25, 2007
(Citizen)JythierJune 25, 2007 17:54:17


When will they learn that the force is controlling them?


maybe one day rightwinger will drag out his darth moderateman article for you.
on Jun 25, 2007
Be proud!! stand up and shout! WE BELIEVE IN GOD AND WE AIN'T GOING TO LET YOU UNBELIEVERS REMOVE "HIM' FROM OUR SIGHT


I like.....  

fight! fight! fight!


"Onward Christian (and Jewish) Soldiers marching as to war"

David said to the enemy:

"And all this assembly shall know that the Lord saves not with sword and spear; for the battle is the Lord's and he will give you into our hands." 1 Sam 17:47
on Jun 26, 2007
Abe? you might think it comes off as "it is just as I feel" but it sure reads like a attack and a hatefull message. then to abandon things with "I do not care to debate with you" after crapping all over lula is well.... cowardly


No, just an acknowledgement of the futility of any such conversation.
on Jun 26, 2007
Abe? you might think it comes off as "it is just as I feel" but it sure reads like a attack and a hatefull message. then to abandon things with "I do not care to debate with you" after crapping all over lula is well.... cowardly


No, just an acknowledgement of the futility of any such conversation.


That's OK Abe. It could be futility as you say, or that you like to drop bombs and fear the controversy that ensues. It also could be that you aren't a true believer in your position as you have not yet explained what you meant by saying what I said to Sen. Kerry was "hateful". There must be something inside for making such a strong statement as that.
on Jun 26, 2007
Be proud!! stand up and shout! WE BELIEVE IN GOD AND WE AIN'T GOING TO LET YOU UNBELIEVERS REMOVE "HIM' FROM OUR SIGHT!!

fight! fight! fight!


Whew, MM, I'm grinning from ear to ear at reading this.....one of the strongest battle cries I've heard in a long, long time.
on Jun 26, 2007

Reply By: KFC Kickin For ChristPosted: Monday, June 25, 2007
Be proud!! stand up and shout! WE BELIEVE IN GOD AND WE AIN'T GOING TO LET YOU UNBELIEVERS REMOVE "HIM' FROM OUR SIGHT


I like.....


fight! fight! fight!


"Onward Christian (and Jewish) Soldiers marching as to war"

I like to call us the Believers vrs the Unbelievers

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