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Published on May 29, 2007 By Moderateman In Politics
'Have sex, do drugs,' speaker tells students
'Men with men, women and women, whatever combination you would like'


Posted: May 21, 2007
10:26 p.m. Eastern

By Bob Unruh
© 2007 WorldNetDaily.com

A guest speaker at an assembly at Boulder High school in Colorado has told students as young as 14 to go have sex and use drugs, prompting school officials to say they will investigate.

The instructions came from Joel Becker, an associate clinical professor of psychology at the University of California at Los Angeles.

"I am going to encourage you to have sex and encourage you to use drugs appropriately,"

Why I am going to take that position is because you are going to do it anyway," he continued. "I think as a psychologist and health educator, it is more important to educate you in a direction that you might actually stick to. So, I am going to stay mostly on with the sex side because that is the area I know more about. I want to encourage you to all have healthy, sexual behavior."

WND also has reported on similar assemblies that have been used by schools to promote homosexuality, including one where parents were banned from the event, and a second where WND reported school officials ordered their 14-year-old freshman class into a "gay" indoctrination seminar after having them sign a confidentiality agreement promising not to tell their parents.

The Boulder school review promise came from board members who were confronted by Boulder High sophomore Daphne White and her mother, Priscilla White, with their complaint about the event.

Priscilla White told board members it's inappropriate for such a message to be delivered by a public school. She was reading excerpts of the presentation to the board when board President Helayne Jones told her to stop, because the language was inappropriate.

"The panel discussion was a completely irresponsible and dangerous invitation to Boulder High students to have sex and take drugs," her daughter, Daphne, told the board.

No student should have been forced to be at that panel discussion, incoming Boulder Valley Supt. Chris King agreed.

The panel included Becker; Andree Gerhardt, a community engagement leader with Ernst & Young; Antonio Sacre, an LA-based performing artist, and Sanho Tree, of the Institute for Policy Studies in Washington.

They were assembled for the discussion as part of the university's Conference on World Affairs, which has been described as a forum for anything.

Conference leaders issued a statement, signed by conference director Jim Palmer and others, saying the panel members talked "candidly and sensibly to the high school audience, providing cautionary information about alcohol consumption, drugs, sexual issues and teens."

The sophomore, Daphne, had been required to attend the panel called "STDs: Sex, Teens and Drugs," and accused panel members of presenting one-sided views and discrediting abstinence.

The White family said the conference statement wasn't even accurate.

"The panelists irresponsibly advised Boulder High students to have sex and use drugs," the family responded. "Teenage abstinence was dismissed as an unwise choice and indicative of religious hang-ups."

"It may be true that the Conference on World Affairs generally 'fosters awareness of local, national and global citizenship and celebrates intellectual discussion and excellence.' It did not in this case," the family continued. "As Daphne suggested at the [recent] school board meeting, Boulder High School, the school district and the CWA should host an assembly at Boulder High for the student body. Hopefully the principal, the deputy superintendent, the board president and the director of the CWA would use the opportunity to offer Boulder High students some sound advice that is more consistent with what teens should hear from adults. They need to do it quickly, graduation is June 2."

Fox News' Bill O'Reilly said Boulder already is known as a "far left" town.

He played a recording of an "unidentified male" saying: "We all experiment. It's very natural for young people to experiment with same sex relationships. When you are 13, 12, 13, 14 certainly probably one of the most appropriate sexual behaviors would be masturbation. Even today, there are psychiatrists who will do sessions under the influence of ecstasy. If I had some maybe I'd do it with someone, but you know."

The transcript obtained by WND showed those comments also were from Becker.

Dan Caplis, a lawyer and radio talk-show host on KHOW Radio, said the principal should have been fired, but wasn't.

"We had the president of the school board on, as well as the head of the school district. And they just kept dodging us. Finally, we pinned them down and we said don't you agree this was harmful, this was dangerous? Finally, they agreed to that," Caplis reported.

"These experts came in to undermine and contradict everything most parents at that school are trying to teach their kids about sex and drugs. And I believe that a lot of those parents are ready to fight back. But we'll find out in the next few days," Caplis said.

"Perhaps we should open a new wing of the high school and name it 'The Young Brothel Wing,'" Added Louise Benson, on another: "The attitude towards the Whites and the wildly left-wing agenda at BHS as represented by the amazing thinking that a panel encouraging sex and drugs would be just fine is one reason families are fleeing public schools.

"The culture wars really are in full swing in schools," she said.


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on May 29, 2007
(Citizen)little-whipMay 29, 2007 21:40:52


Damn fags. They're everywhere.


come on whip, praising drug use and unprotected sex and forcing the kids to attend this little demo is nasty. It's not about just the same sex speech.
on May 29, 2007
I'd be kickin' some asses if some loony was allowed to say that kind of stuff to my teen in school!  What the hell were the school officials thinking?!  I heard some of it on TV and was in total shock.  Sickening is the only word I can think of right now.
on May 30, 2007
I heard this and was completely shocked, but once again shows the hypocrisy of the left.
on May 30, 2007

I thought Timothy Leery was dead?

The stupidity of his comments is that he should have also advocated smoking.  At least that is legal.

Urging impressionable students to do stupid things just because they are prone to do stupid things is irresponsible, and shows a lack of maturity and cognitive capacity on the clown who made the suggestions.

on May 30, 2007
Urging impressionable students to do stupid things just because they are prone to do stupid things is irresponsible, and shows a lack of maturity and cognitive capacity on the clown who made the suggestions.


Really? I would see it the other way - accepting that people are going to do stupid things and then advising them appropriately is responsible, and doing otherwise shows a lack of maturity and cognitive capacity on the behalf of the clown who makes said suggestions.

Let's think about it - if your advice is of no use to the person you're giving it to (ie giving abstinence-based sex ed to sexually active teens) then the only person you're helping is your own sense of righteousness.

It just strikes me as more than a little pointless.

Maybe this guy went too far, but at least he acted honestly and without that self-serving hypocrisy the rat spoke with.
on May 30, 2007
Really? I would see it the other way - accepting that people are going to do stupid things and then advising them appropriately is responsible, and doing otherwise shows a lack of maturity and cognitive capacity on the behalf of the clown who makes said suggestions.


So why do we have speeding laws? Why do we have DUI laws? Cacto, you did not think that one through, as that is shear stupidity to suggest that aiding and abetting stupid behavior is good just because children are prone to do it. That is why they are children. SO they can be taught that actions have consequences (and some not even man made - but dictated by nature - as in a body flying into a tree at 100mph will not be protected by a thin sheet of tin).

When, and if, you have children, I hope you grow up and realize that allowing them to do anything they want anytime they want is not going to do them any good in coping with life's real situations. Or interacting with other people.
on May 30, 2007
What gets me, is the fact that they KNEW, ahead of time, that parents would object. I mean, why else have the kids sign NDA (exclusive target - the parents) or explicitly block parents from attending?

A silly thought just struck me about that. Since an NDA is a legally binding contract, is it legal to allow (okay, force) a minor child to sign it w/o their legal guardian/parent present to authorize/sign?
on May 30, 2007
SO they can be taught that actions have consequences (and some not even man made - but dictated by nature - as in a body flying into a tree at 100mph will not be protected by a thin sheet of tin).


Why does accepting that people do stupid things necessitate against giving them good advice? Good advice includes covering the negatives as well as the positives; if you only tell kids not to have sex then those who are having sex get no useful advice at all.
on May 30, 2007

When, and if, you have children, I hope you grow up and realize that allowing them to do anything they want anytime they want is not going to do them any good in coping with life's real situations. Or interacting with other people.


I already realise that.

When I have kids I'll explain sex to them in the same way my parents did to me - give them the classics (Where did i come from etc) and then, when they're older, tell them the specifics based on whether they're gay or straight.

If you look at the figures hardly anyone is abstinent as a teen, so there's little point in making that the only lesson taught to kids. Tell them it's the best way to avoid trouble and then go on to explain in detail what can go wrong and how it can be minimised.

on May 30, 2007
Good advice includes covering the negatives as well as the positives; if you only tell kids not to have sex then those who are having sex get no useful advice at all.


Telling them to do drugs - while it may make them happy feely - is not good advice - even where it is legal. You pick one point of the article, and try to build a case that since they are going to do sex (not a given, but you can be excused for thinking every 14 year old is as active as a rabit), that doing anything because they want to do it, they should be told to do it. That is just plain stupid.
on May 30, 2007
If you look at the figures hardly anyone is abstinent as a teen


Show me these figures. WHile I am not going to argue that all children are chaste, or even that a majority may or may not be, "hardly anyone" implies an overwelming majority that is not born out by any data that I have seen. Unless you want to include 18 and 19 year olds (technically teens, but also adults). And even then, I would question the fact that "an overwelming" majority of 13-19 year olds are bed hopping.
on May 30, 2007
Show me these figures.


In what was a real surprise for me around a third of American teens are virgins at 18. (http://www.soundvision.com/Info/teens/stat.asp) Still, I don't see why the activities of 2/3 of teenagers should be ignored in order to push an abstinence package.

And even then, I would question the fact that "an overwelming" majority of 13-19 year olds are bed hopping.


I didn't say they were. But there's no point thinking of kids as naive. TV and movies show kids a world where everyone is bedhopping; they're used to tuning out lifestyle advice that just doesn't apply to them. So giving advice to the bedhopping isn't likely to make everyone bedhop. One article I found (had to look through google cache; it's on teen pregnancy and right near the top for 'teen sex rates') actually showed that sexual activity was in decline amongst teens, so presumably the modern method of sex ed isn't corrupting the youth.

Telling them to do drugs - while it may make them happy feely - is not good advice - even where it is legal. You pick one point of the article, and try to build a case that since they are going to do sex (not a given, but you can be excused for thinking every 14 year old is as active as a rabit), that doing anything because they want to do it, they should be told to do it. That is just plain stupid.


My reading of the situation was that he said he knew kids were doing drugs. That's not encouragement, that's acknowledgement. And providing advice on how to avoid making a stupid decision worse is hardly a foolhardy or cruel thing to do.

Once again this modern method - where drug use is discussed more openly - has actually led to a decrease in drug use - http://www.drugfree.org/Portal/About/NewsReleases/Parental_Involvement_and_Media_Messages

Interesting, no?

(NOTE: Like several of you, I'm assuming as a baseline that a) that guy is the norm and that his kind of advice is influential. Why? Because if we assume that he's unusual and that his advice is uninfluential then really you're just stirring shit for the sake of it)
on May 30, 2007
In what was a real surprise for me around a third of American teens are virgins at 18. (http://www.soundvision.com/Info/teens/stat.asp) Still, I don't see why the activities of 2/3 of teenagers should be ignored in order to push an abstinence package.


No one is arguing pushing an abstinance package here, nor does the article say they should be. Quite the opposite. What we are saying is stupid is:

"I am going to encourage you to have sex and encourage you to use drugs appropriately,"


That is not "recognizing" that they are going to have sex, or do drugs. That is encouraging them to (his words and there can be no mincing or misunderstanding that statement).

Earth is not Ork. We are not born old and then age young, and so children must be guided. Encouraging them to indulge in wreckless and irresponsible behaviour, regardless of whether they are going to do them or not (and by your own numbers, a great number do not) is not the way to teach children about living with consequences or in a society.
on May 30, 2007

Reply By: JillUserPosted: Tuesday, May 29, 2007
I'd be kickin' some asses if some loony was allowed to say that kind of stuff to my teen in school! What the hell were the school officials thinking?! I heard some of it on TV and was in total shock. Sickening is the only word I can think of right now.

that's what set me off, him offering to do Ecstasy with a student "if he had some on him' WTF are they thinking?

on May 30, 2007

Reply By: little-whipPosted: Wednesday, May 30, 2007
come on whip, praising drug use and unprotected sex and forcing the kids to attend this little demo is nasty. It's not about just the same sex speech.


All valid sarcasm has the bite of truth to it. While my remark was made sardonically (and there's no font to indicate that) it does seem that every time you turn around the homosexual agenda once again rears it's deviant head, shoving their unsavory bedroom habits in our face, attempting to influence (or some would say corrupt) our children, or demanding some new 'right' that even straights don't have. (like the right to marry anyone we please.)

This sort of incident sets their cause back far more than any march or protest by the Christian Right ever could.

I can understand making it possible for some kid in the closet to come out with pride, but to promote drug use and unprotected sex is just irresponsible!

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