It's kind of interesting to see someone consider calling people "pathetic" and "cowards" and worse as being "dissension". That's the kind of thought process that leads people to thinking that assaulting people on stage or drowning out a public speaker with insults as being nothing more than expressing "dissent".

I sure didn't see very much dissension. To me, dissension involves him debating the issue. Attacking individuals on a personal level isn't dissension. It's attacking individuals on a personal level.

This discussion has been pretty informative.

I went back and looked at Mike's comments and each time they were listed statements of his opinions stated as facts and insults of the people who don't see the "truth" in his statements. I'm content that reponses #66 make the case how quick Mike was to start getting pretty nasty. 

He says how he didn't get nasty until I showed a lack of respect. My first response to him was #64 where I asked him to provide evidence for his claims. To which he responded that I needed to start reading books rather than watching FoxNews.  In other words, asking him to back up his claims because I don't agree with them is disrespectful.

It's also really interesting because you saw how he took my criticism of his arguments as being the same as him literally calling me a moron or a coward of whatever. That is, to him, attacking the individual is the same as attacking the argument.

He even attacks the site itself as a way of attacking me. This is another great example of left-wing thought - attack those that do things.  Does Mike have a site that he put up? (incidentally, the home page of JU has a Sitemeter button that anyone can click on and see that we have an uptime >98%). Left-wingers don't build. They just criticize. But to move your agenda forward, you have to lead. To build something. You can't move your agenda forward by just sitting back and crapping on what other people are DOing.

And this gets back to Moderateman's original point: The left just can't seem to participate in any debate civilly. Their opponents aren't just dumb and and unenlightened. As soon as you peel away the surface you get to "real" thoughts -- we're a bunch of weak minded, pathetic cowards.

I don't know about you but does anyone want to be led by someone who thinks they're sub-human? I sure don't. And hence, the left just can't get things going because they're so full of hate and vitriol.

so far I have this fight scored.. Draginol. 6 rounds

Mikes daily log 4 rounds

2 even.

this leave 3 more rounds.. mike can still win, but he will have to take all three rounds to do so.

thank you for naming me friend. what an honor.

My biggest one is 320, "starve a liberal instead of terri Shiavo"

There is nothing more boring than constant AGREEMENT, it is the differences that make friendship interesting.

believe it or not was not going for points, was going for 100 replies, That is my personal benchmark for a fun article, one that causes debate and an exchange of views.