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Published on October 17, 2006 By Moderateman In Politics

 As one ages and is a political animal, which is MORE likely?

Changing from Liberal to Conservative OR changing from Conservative to Liberal?


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on Oct 17, 2006
Next time, don't beleive that you (USA) own a monopole on political terms

"Liberal" and "Conservative" originates in England, as I recall..


It is odd though to hear people outside the US using liberal and conservative in the US way. They have entirely different meanings in political science.

As for the question, I plan on becoming a monarchist when I get old. That way I can grumble about leftist commies and all the rest just like all the other obsolete bastards in this world.
on Oct 17, 2006
Depends on whether you mean classic liberal meaning "progressive and inclusive" and classic conservative meaning "small government and stay out of my life" or, conversely, you mean the current crop of mendacious morons of either stripe. I believe the current group are the "Bush can do no wrong, rubberstamp his every whim" party and the "We're not the other guys but have no spines" party.

Hard to get excited about either of those current groups. But, if we're discussing the classic definitions, I think most people migrate to one or the other end of the spectrum (not all the way for most people, somewhere on the spectrum) by the time they're 30, and stay there most of their lives. Most people I know (military retirees as a general rule) are pretty fiscally and socially conservative, but also think that if someone doesn't expect anything from them that other person can do whatever they bloody well like.

Most real people are more complex than "left or right," and if they aren't shouldn't be allowed to vote from their padded cells anyway.
on Oct 17, 2006
It is odd though to hear people outside the US using liberal and conservative in the US way. They have entirely different meanings in political science.


Baking powder? Whatcha mean?

Except the old-fashion "Liberalism" is "No State, all business", I don't recall the origin of the term "Conservative"?

Can you tell me what they mean in Political Sciences?
on Oct 17, 2006

Liberal to conservative.  Liberals are, to me, more idealistic.  Conservatives, on the other hand, are more realistic.

I've always been a centrist, but in my youth I was a left-leaning centrist.  Now that I'm rapidly approaching middle-age, I'm a right leaning centrist.

on Oct 17, 2006
Younger days - center with left leanings towards programs that help people that are in need. This was when it was my parents money.

Twentys - center. The programs that were meant to help people till they got back on their feet, suddenly (it seemed at the time), became a mandatory sentence for to large of a group of people. Now it was my money and it wasn't even a medium income bracket.

Thirtys - "Hey, what the heck is going on here?" I'm paying back my student loans and making a couple bucks over minimum wage and I'm an ogre for thinking that at some point you need to get a job? By now I think I was still in the center - but moving to the right.

Fortys - OK - you goofed and need some help. I'll help you as long as you're off your butt. I'm not paying for you to hold the couch down, while you send 3 or 4 kids, all from different fathers, off for the free breakfast and lunch, as boyfriend number 4 or 5 plays video games. Clearly, I've pitched my little tent in the right.

Since the attack - when I found out my Mom was correct (again). That my generation would be attacked and half of us would be too damn stupid to hold the attackers responsible. I'm not interested in the whining - get off your backside and take care of your damn problems. I think I'm off the scale. Geez! My soapbox is out.
on Oct 18, 2006
Except the old-fashion "Liberalism" is "No State, all business", I don't recall the origin of the term "Conservative


Liberalism is nothing more than a "mental" disorder! Which thankfully can be curing by a frontal lobotomy!
on Oct 18, 2006
Liberal to Conservative easy. Something Liberals don't want to hear, but it all has to do with religion. Just think of it this way: It's very common for people to "find GOD" as they get older. They see the light. They realize how stupid and wreckless they've been all their life. Liberals are the stupid and wreckless, and Conservatives are the wiser and smarter.
on Oct 18, 2006
As I age I just try to remember to change my shorts.


mason,,,we certainly have our differences,,,but this answer made my day,,,funny!

kudos!
on Oct 18, 2006
(Citizen)cactoblastaOctober 17, 2006 20:22:57


cactoblastaOctober 17, 2006 20:22:57


As for the question, I plan on becoming a monarchist when I get old. That way I can grumble about leftist commies and all the rest just like all the other obsolete bastards in this world.


The way things are going with me, I will be an anarchist before it's all over.
on Oct 18, 2006
Depends on whether you mean classic liberal meaning "progressive and inclusive" and classic conservative meaning "small government and stay out of my life" or, conversely, you mean the current crop of mendacious morons of either stripe. I believe the current group are the "Bush can do no wrong, rubberstamp his every whim" party and the "We're not the other guys but have no spines" party.


Classic meaning of BOTh have no place in todays world,,,, sadly.

I support Bush, but man oh man has he fucked things up.
on Oct 18, 2006
dharmagrlOctober 17, 2006 21:05:43


Liberal to conservative. Liberals are, to me, more idealistic. Conservatives, on the other hand, are more realistic.
I've always been a centrist, but in my youth I was a left-leaning centrist. Now that I'm rapidly approaching middle-age, I'm a right leaning centrist.


remember when I came here? I was much more moderate about things, slowly but surely I am drifting further to the right.
on Oct 18, 2006
feisty_in_ohioOctober 17, 2006 21:47:34


Since the attack - when I found out my Mom was correct (again). That my generation would be attacked and half of us would be too damn stupid to hold the attackers responsible. I'm not interested in the whining - get off your backside and take care of your damn problems. I think I'm off the scale. Geez! My soapbox is out.


wonderful breakdown of all your leanings as you have aged some. You are not on a soapbox in my opinion, just clearly rational.
on Oct 18, 2006
(Anonymous)JustinOctober 18, 2006 00:59:00


Liberal to Conservative easy. Something Liberals don't want to hear, but it all has to do with religion. Just think of it this way: It's very common for people to "find GOD" as they get older. They see the light. They realize how stupid and wreckless they've been all their life. Liberals are the stupid and reckless, and Conservatives are the wiser and smarter.


I never looked at it this way, thank you so much for food for thought.

gratefully, MM
on Oct 18, 2006
remember when I came here? I was much more moderate about things, slowly but surely I am drifting further to the right.


Welcome to the dark side of the force, brother.
on Oct 18, 2006
Liberalism is nothing more than a "mental" disorder! Which thankfully can be curing by a frontal lobotomy!


My God, because of you, I see the Light. Thank you, I am CURED!..

not..

Do these kind of comments really are common here?
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