President Bush, on Donald Rumsfeld

Gotta love a man of convictions!

Published on April 18, 2006 By Moderateman In War on Terror

He stands by his allies.

Comments (Page 4)

on Apr 19, 2006

Drmiler

I have no idea about you IQ but I do know your comments on this Blog site show you know nothing about the Military, Economics or Financial Management.

No, what I don't know is "your" version of the military, "your" version of economics, or "YOUR" version of financial management. And I would dare say "your" versions are not in line with a lot of other peoples versions either. Now answer MM's military questions or shut the hell up.

COL Gene

on Apr 19, 2006

My versions are what succeed. They are what get the job done. I have proven that over 40 years. You do not tell me to do anything.

Moderateman

on Apr 19, 2006

47 by COL Gene
Wednesday, April 19, 2006

My versions are what succeed. They are what get the job done. I have proven that over 40 years. You do not tell me to do anything.

typical of YOU to ignore my simple request about your experence. that is what we talk about how YOU ignore things, then expect us to answer your every question.

KFC Kickin For Christ

on Apr 19, 2006

All I know is I'm going to hear the "Donald" Rumsfield after all. He's speaking at my sons' college graduation next month. I'll take notes and share with you all!!

COL Gene

on Apr 19, 2006

Moderateman

I will respond to a request. I will not respond to a demand such as drmiler made.

I was not assigned to combat in Vietnam much to my surprise. From 1964-1968 I was regular Army and thought in 1966 I was to be assigned to the 4th Div. As it turned out, my assignment as a nuclear weapons officer and the very sensitive information I obtained prevented my assignment anywhere where I might be captured. I did not learn that until 1986 when I was not selected for promotion to BG. I held most staff positions and had three commands. Two commands were LTC slots and one was a COL position. I was a Field Artillery Officer from 1963-1966. I then became a Finance Officer. I was recalled in 1981 to head the team that redesigned the Military Pay System for the Army Guard and Reserve. I had a total of 6 years on active duty and 24 years in the Active Reserve.

drmiler

on Apr 19, 2006

My versions are what succeed. They are what get the job done. I have proven that over 40 years. You do not tell me to do anything.

"You" have proven NOTHING to me. Except of course how you tend to ignore things when they don't fit with your preconcieved notions. Of course I don't tell you to do something. You can't tell a jack-a** "anything"!

Myrrander

on Apr 19, 2006

"Rummy, you're doing a heckuva job!"

Bahu Virupaksha

on Apr 20, 2006

holy baananas! we are in agreement on a subject, bless you!

Compliment accepted with thanks.

Moderateman

on Apr 20, 2006

Reply By: COL GenePosted: Wednesday, April 19, 2006ModeratemanI will respond to a request. I will not respond to a demand such as drmiler made.I was not assigned to combat in Vietnam much to my surprise. From 1964-1968 I was regular Army and thought in 1966 I was to be assigned to the 4th Div. As it turned out, my assignment as a nuclear weapons officer and the very sensitive information I obtained prevented my assignment anywhere where I might be captured. I did not learn that until 1986 when I was not selected for promotion to BG. I held most staff positions and had three commands. Two commands were LTC slots and one was a COL position. I was a Field Artillery Officer from 1963-1966. I then became a Finance Officer. I was recalled in 1981 to head the team that redesigned the Military Pay System for the Army Guard and Reserve. I had a total of 6 years on active duty and 24 years in the Active Reserve.

First I thank you for your service, From your time im military, you really should know, we go to war with the army we have.

I was totally against Bush going to Iraq, I thought it was a huge mistake, still do.

Opinions, even from generals are like assholes, everyone has one.

Tommy Franks stated, it was his decision to make a run to Bagdad and not secure towns he passed through, Rumsfeld gave Tommy his head and let general franks make all the decisions about how to conduct the war.

Were mistakes made? hell yes, but name a war that was not a fubar? The truth is even if we sent one million men, it would have been impossible to guard 25 million Iraqis, with the amount of weapons in iraq no one could have stopped the looting and subsequencely all the disapperance of said explosives.

DJBandit

on Apr 20, 2006

Were mistakes made? hell yes, but name a war that was not a fubar? The truth is even if we sent one million men, it would have been impossible to guard 25 million Iraqis, with the amount of weapons in iraq no one could have stopped the looting and subsequencely all the disapperance of said explosives.

That is my point exactly, regardless of how many soldiers we could have sent to Iraq, it is impossible to keep every single one of them alive. There is just no way to know who is the terrorist and who is a civilian and where are all the weapons. Chances are this many soldiers would have died anyways. But Col makes it sound as if somehow this would have never happend had Bush not been in charge. Talk about stupidity at it's finest. BTW, keep in mind that some of those 2000+ dead died from accidents such as vehicle malfunctions and friendly fire.

Moderateman

on Apr 20, 2006

Reply By: Charles.CPosted: Thursday, April 20, 2006Were mistakes made? hell yes, but name a war that was not a fubar? The truth is even if we sent one million men, it would have been impossible to guard 25 million Iraqis, with the amount of weapons in iraq no one could have stopped the looting and subsequencely all the disapperance of said explosives.That is my point exactly, regardless of how many soldiers we could have sent to Iraq, it is impossible to keep every single one of them alive. There is just no way to know who is the terrorist and who is a civilian and where are all the weapons. Chances are this many soldiers would have died anyways. But Col makes it sound as if somehow this would have never happend had Bush not been in charge. Talk about stupidity at it's finest. BTW, keep in mind that some of those 2000+ dead died from accidents such as vehicle malfunctions and friendly fire.

colgene bless his heart has no idea about what war really is, from his own mouth.

War is a collection of missions, some go well, some go bad, the whole Ideas of seven generals coming out at the same time to condemn bush and rummy smacks of colusion. Never has a general trashed the President while at war! Let alone 7 at the same time, somewhere behind the scenes is a liberal democrat pulling the generals strings. I for one am ashamed of them.

Moderateman

on Apr 20, 2006

52 by Miranda
Wednesday, April 19, 2006

Rummy, you're doing a heckuva job!"

is this sarcasm I smell myrrh? heh

Moderateman

on Apr 21, 2006

Geeze colgene you couldn have at least acknowledged my lengthy reply to you.

stevendedalus

on Apr 24, 2006

Rumsfeld is actually more loyal than Bush. He splendidly followed the dictates of his commander in chief.

COL Gene

on Apr 25, 2006

You have just proven my point. Bush with NO active military experience disregarded the planning of the most experienced combat veterans and sent 1/3 the number of troops they said was needed to secure Iraq.

Now lets look at the results-- After Bush said Mission Accomplished we had 90% of the deaths and injuries because we were unable to control 25 million people in a country the size of California with 135,000 troops. Just what those generals with untold combat experience said would happen. Most of our dead and injured are because of the way Bush choose to fight this war( a choice he had no experience to make- that was a military decision) and ALL of our dead and injured are because he attacked a country that did not pose ANY danger to this country.

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