President Bush, on Donald Rumsfeld

Gotta love a man of convictions!

Published on April 18, 2006 By Moderateman In War on Terror

He stands by his allies.

Comments (Page 3)

on Apr 19, 2006

Moderateman

You better look at the facts. The plan called for just under 500,000 troops. Under pressure from Rumsfeld, Franks said he could cut it to 385,000 in December 2001. Rumsfeld would not accept that number and Franks brought the number down to 300,000. Under even more pressure the final number Franks said was essential was 275,000. Bush and Rumsfeld sent 150,000.

The Army Chief of Staff, Gen Zinni who was Frank’s predecessor and Gen Powell before that said the number in Op Plan 1003-98 which was just short of 500,000 was what was needed.

The U S had 495,000 troops in the first Gulf War in a smaller country with far less people to control. Iraq is a country of 24 million people, about 400,000 former Saddam military that were still in Iraq after Saddam fell in a country the size of California.

Let’s call a spade a spade. The reason that Bush and Rumsfeld did not provide the troop levels that the military said was needed was they did not want to take the time to build our force to a size that could provide and support that number. There was no urgency to attack in March 2003 except that Bush wanted to invade with out delay. This was not a war forced on our country and the urgency or the need was NOT present. Thus we went to war and have risked the lives of our military without just reason to satisfy George W. Bush! The proof that the military was correct as to the numbers can be scene EVERY DAY in Iraq.

COL Gene

on Apr 19, 2006

All you that support Bush and Rumsfeld treat our military as Cannon Fader. There are 2,370 dead American military and 17,500 combat injured and as much as a Trillion dollies wasted on a WAR THAT DID NOT HAVE TO BE! I have a Hell of a lot more respect for the lives of our military then to sacrifice them to fight in a war against a country that was no threat to the United States. In March 2003 Saddam could not have mounted an attack against an ROTC unit much less the United States of America.

drmiler

on Apr 19, 2006

Let’s call a spade a spade

WE HAVE BEEN! We've been calling you a ding-bat all along! ding, ding, ding, ding....ding-bat!

COL Gene

on Apr 19, 2006

Drmiler

No you are calling the most senior military leaders ding-bats. Look in the mirror- you are ALL that you call others.

drmiler

on Apr 19, 2006

Drmiler

No you are calling the most senior military leaders ding-bats. Look in the mirror- you are ALL that you call others.

I don't think so. Number one I haven't called "anyone" a ding-bat except for you I save such remarks very strictly for you and those like you. And we've had this discussion before. I have verifiable IQ of 130, want to match wits? Bring it on ding-bat!

Moderateman

on Apr 19, 2006

Reply By: COL GenePosted: Wednesday, April 19, 2006DrmilerNo you are calling the most senior military leaders ding-bats. Look in the mirror- you are ALL that you call others.

no the most senior leaders Franks and meyers said Bush did the right thing!!! why can't you just admit it's your blind hatred for bush that rules all your thinking!!

spindoctor

on Apr 19, 2006

Why do you even bother trying to get through to colgene? He is obviously not going to listen to any thoughts but his own, no matter how much proof you offer.

Moderateman

on Apr 19, 2006

37 by spindoctor (Anonymous user)
Wednesday, April 19, 2006

Why do you even bother trying to get through to colgene? He is obviously not going to listen to any thoughts but his own, no matter how much proof you offer.

one can only hope to reach him, I really am concerned at the depth of his hatred, Secret Service should be keeping an eye on him. IMO

COL Gene

on Apr 19, 2006

When you explain the 2,370 dead and the 17,500 combat injuries that DID NOT have to happen, I will be glad to listen. Those dead and injured Americans say Bush and Rumsfeld were wrong.

Drmiler Since I am in agreement with most of the senior military officers, when you disagree with me you also disagree with them. Please list your military experience and training?

COL Gene

on Apr 19, 2006

drmiler

on Apr 19, 2006

no the most senior leaders Franks and meyers said Bush did the right thing!!! why can't you just admit it's your blind hatred for bush that rules all your thinking!!

You and I BOTH said it before.....ding, ding, ding, ding, and I finished it. He's a ding-bat.

Dr Guy

on Apr 19, 2006

Reply By: spindoctor(Anonymous User)Posted: Wednesday, April 19, 2006
Why do you even bother trying to get through to colgene? He is obviously not going to listen to any thoughts but his own, no matter how much proof you offer.

I must acknowledge your fast learning. None of us are perfect, but automatons are just a slot machine with only one outcome! MM is Don Quixote. He has earned that right.

COL Gene

on Apr 19, 2006

Drmiler

I have no idea about you IQ but I do know your comments on this Blog site show you know nothing about the Military, Economics or Financial Management.

Moderateman

on Apr 19, 2006

#42 by Dr. Guy
Wednesday, April 19, 2006

! MM is Don Quixote

tooooooooo dreammmmmmmmmmmmmmm the imposible dreammmmmmm, to fightttttt the unbeatable foeeeeeeeeeeeeee....

Moderateman

on Apr 19, 2006

40 by COL Gene
Wednesday, April 19, 2006

Please list your military experience and training?

how about you listing your combat experence? wounds received, how many you see die from combat? How about just led men into combat?

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