America has problems, but America is NOT THE PROBLEM!~
No matter how you spin it.
Published on March 22, 2006 By Moderateman In Politics
Recently stevendadelus {sp?} has decided to take me head on, while I do not have the writing skills of Steven, I am no dummy either.

The left as promoted by Steven has been directly responsible for the decline of America through there progressive secular movement.

Total denial of responsibility shown by the use of ABORTION, the standard of the left, it is what the left hangs all their hopes on, rabble rousing to keep the murder of children alive and well.

Sour grapes is all I hear and see every time some loon from the left open their mouths to decry America as the most evil nation on the planet.

Steven believes he is a progressive thinker, I say he is not progressive but a destructive thinker! Much like the left all they want is to turn America into a socialist state much like Europe, even though Europe is slowly drowning in there own government sponsored welfare state.

The latest GDP shows that America has more growth that all of Europe combined, but will that stop the loons on the left? no! A resounding no at that!

Steven made an entire article about my thoughts, calling me the flame thrower, well people that live in glass houses should not cast stones, or is that thought to deep for you Steven? Call me a flame thrower while trying to gather some allies to take me head on with you.

As usual the loons on the left have it all wrong. I am not there enemy, they are their own worse enemies.
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on Mar 22, 2006
In the world of 1984, those who do not parrot the correct speech are the enemy.  While I would not say that Stevendedalus is among the fringe of the left, as he does espouse some moderate views, many on the left do ostracize anyone who does not toe their elitist views.  And that is to their own undoing.
on Mar 22, 2006
Reply By: Dr. GuyPosted: Wednesday, March 22, 2006In the world of 1984, those who do not parrot the correct speech are the enemy. While I would not say that Stevendedalus is among the fringe of the left, as he does espouse some moderate views, many on the left do ostracize anyone who does not toe their elitist views. And that is to their own undoing.


I would have agreed doc last week, but he has taken aim at my thoughts and held me up to ridicule because he does not agree with me, He has fallen into the liberal trap of only liberals can form real thoughts and is now denigrating me and mine.
on Mar 22, 2006
I would have agreed doc last week, but he has taken aim at my thoughts and held me up to ridicule because he does not agree with me, He has fallen into the liberal trap of only liberals can form real thoughts and is now denigrating me and mine.
I did not intend to personally ridicule you until you decided that all lefties are looneys with unsubtantiated pithy remarks designed to inflame.
on Mar 22, 2006
#3 by stevendedalus
Wednesday, March 22, 2006


would have agreed doc last week, but he has taken aim at my thoughts and held me up to ridicule because he does not agree with me, He has fallen into the liberal trap of only liberals can form real thoughts and is now denigrating me and mine.
I did not intend to personally ridicule you until you decided that all lefties are looneys with unsubtantiated pithy remarks designed to inflame.


so you intended to personally attack me, glad to see the left as usual while crying for reason and peace uses any excuse to attack, Once again showing the left is full of shit, they preach do as I demand not as I do. Just like you steven.
on Mar 22, 2006
Mod... I gotta say in steven's defense... you regularly and without a second thought depict all those on the left as raving loons who have no concept of morality, responsibility, or good fashion sense. (Ok, so I made that last part up)

You're dismissive and insulting towards most who publicly disagree with you on political matters. Like many of the more conservative here, you've adopted the same intellectual elitism many went after the left for having, basically dismissing leftist views as stupid and any who hold them stupid by extension.

The difference between what you do and what Steven did was you insult and dismiss people as a group without singling them out. You can argue that that's better than going after an individual, but you only stay general until someone pokes their head up and then go after them directly. Steven just went straight for you, he just didn't name you outright.

You launch against the left with the whole "Hey, they're mean but tell others not to be mean! They're full of shit!" but almost always do so in a mean manner yourself. I've rarely seen you post a political comment or article that did not in some way insult those on the left. You don't get to cry out hypocracy when you are guilty of the same actions.

Yeah, the left is guilty of a lot of pretty bad behavior... but the right has gotten just as bad, at least here on JU.
on Mar 22, 2006
Reply By: ZoombaPosted: Wednesday, March 22, 2006Mod... I gotta say in steven's defense... you regularly and without a second thought depict all those on the left as raving loons who have no concept of morality, responsibility, or good fashion sense. (Ok, so I made that last part up)You're dismissive and insulting towards most who publicly disagree with you on political matters. Like many of the more conservative here, you've adopted the same intellectual elitism many went after the left for having, basically dismissing leftist views as stupid and any who hold them stupid by extension.The difference between what you do and what Steven did was you insult and dismiss people as a group without singling them out. You can argue that that's better than going after an individual, but you only stay general until someone pokes their head up and then go after them directly. Steven just went straight for you, he just didn't name you outright.You launch against the left with the whole "Hey, they're mean but tell others not to be mean! They're full of shit!" but almost always do so in a mean manner yourself. I've rarely seen you post a political comment or article that did not in some way insult those on the left. You don't get to cry out hypocracy when you are guilty of the same actions.Yeah, the left is guilty of a lot of pretty bad behavior... but the right has gotten just as bad, at least here on JU.


you make good points zoomba, I accept them in the spirit given.
on Mar 22, 2006
As for friends, ask Harriet and the UAE; it’s true I personally have few friends out of design, lest an uncontrollable batch become sycophants as some of the followers of Modman.



Perhaps this will lead to members of the left to stand up to this incorrigible Flamer.



and he did name me zoomba.
on Mar 22, 2006
Mod,
Yeah, I didn't mean to be insulting, I was just trying to point out behaviors. And I appologize, I didn't see his reference to you in the article.
on Mar 22, 2006
8 by Zoomba
Wednesday, March 22, 2006


Mod,
Yeah, I didn't mean to be insulting, I was just trying to point out behaviors. And I apologize, I didn't see his reference to you in the article.


zoomba, anytime anyone has a reasonable premise for scolding me { I am open to this BTW} and presents it in a sane and kind manner I take it on the chin with a smile.

You are one the good guys here zoomba and anytime you call me on my shit is fine as long as it is done kindly.
on Mar 23, 2006
Thanks for the defense, zoomba, though you apologized to Mod because he hides behind generic terms and thinks he's being impersonal!
so you intended to personally attack me, glad to see the left as usual while crying for reason and peace uses any excuse to attack, Once again showing the left is full of shit, they preach do as I demand not as I do. Just like you steven.
Thanks. It became personal because you flagrantly insulted the principles of the left. All Christians are hypocrites may not be a personal attack but it sure excoriates a lot of people!
on Mar 23, 2006
Reply By: stevendedalusPosted: Thursday, March 23, 2006Thanks for the defense, zoomba, though you apologized to Mod because he hides behind generic terms and thinks he's being impersonal! so you intended to personally attack me, glad to see the left as usual while crying for reason and peace uses any excuse to attack, Once again showing the left is full of shit, they preach do as I demand not as I do. Just like you steven.Thanks. It became personal because you flagrantly insulted the principles of the left. All Christians are hypocrites may not be a personal attack but it sure excoriates a lot of people!


hey steven? why don't you get layed, you are the single most uptight person on joeuser at this moment in time, if you keep disrespecting me on a personal level I will be forced to intrduce you to my blacklist, You add nothing to anything I write you just badmouth me. If I upset you so stay out of my blog. Please.
on Mar 23, 2006
Thanks. It became personal because you flagrantly insulted the principles of the left


no it became personal because YOU CHOSE TO DO IT, stand up and take responsibility for your behavior and actions and stop blaming me for YOUR ILL MANNERED behaviors. But then that's what lefties do, blame all there own problems on someone, anyone else, Demand that everyone take responsibility but yourselves.
on Mar 23, 2006
I write you just badmouth me.
Only in self-defense of the principles I stand by.

But then that's what lefties do, blame all there own problems on someone, anyone else, Demand that everyone take responsibility but yourselves.
Oh, because you use generic terms I, too, must excoriate all righties. That I refuse to do.
As for getting layed, you might think it's reasonable retribution but I say that's as low as you can get.

on Mar 23, 2006
Reply By: stevendedalusPosted: Thursday, March 23, 2006I write you just badmouth me.Only in self-defense of the principles I stand by.But then that's what lefties do, blame all there own problems on someone, anyone else, Demand that everyone take responsibility but yourselves.Oh, because you use generic terms I, too, must excoriate all righties. That I refuse to do.As for getting layed, you might think it's reasonable retribution but I say that's as low as you can get.


while I accept my own bad behavior and never blame the person for my own stuff, I se you still refuse to take responsibility for your own actions, I MAKE YOU DO NOTHING! Just like you make me do nothing, it's called personal responsibility, try it sometime you might like it! heh heh
on Mar 24, 2006
Just like you make me do nothing, it's called personal responsibility, try it sometime you might like it! heh heh


reasonable impasse--Peace.
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