America has problems, but America is NOT THE PROBLEM!~
It's really very simple, George is the epitome of everything the far left hates.

George is Pro-American the far left is NOT!

George is for traditional values, the Far left hates traditional values and is looking to turn America into Europe.

George keeps his word, the left has no word to keep.

George believes marriage is between a man and women, the left believes it's between a man and child, two women or two men, soon to come, man and his horse.

George is faithful to his friends, the left has no friends, only sycophants.

Maybe some more comparisons from the members of the right can be added?


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on Mar 16, 2006
I cannot "reason" with you because you are unreasonable.


Come on MM, you know that's not why you can't reason with me.
on Mar 16, 2006
Come on MM, you know that's not why you can't reason with me.


well from reading his post i dont think he wants to reason... just wants to pick a fight ... and you are falling for it
on Mar 16, 2006
Tax breaks for married couples, insurance rates, government benefits, etc., effect us all, given we all pay for them. Another great, unquestionable "truth" imposed by courts forcing states to bow to the Federal will effects us all. Dealing with the legal woes and torn children of even more broken marriages effects us all.

Marriage is already a joke in the US. Gay "marriage" will just make it more of a joke by adding to the already sad number of heterosexuals that have no respect for the institution.
on Mar 16, 2006
BakerStreet offers a postulate that "Gay "marriage" will just make it more of a joke." Any support? Are gay marriages more or less stable than hetero marriages? Are the adopted children of gay marriages better or worse off than before adoption?

Saying that gay marriage is an example of "forcing states to bow to the Federal will" is also misleading. There are cases of states recognizing gay marriage and the Federal government fighting it.

The term "traditional values" is misleading. The Fundamentalist Church of Latter Day Saints has a "tradition" of polygamy. See Link Are we to assume that President Bush supports it? Why has the Federal Government leveled charges against Warren Jeffs, head of that church, simply because he insists on practicing the tradition of marrying young girls to older men, a tradition supported by the Bible?

Frankly, I think we need to return to the "tradional value" of being able to have sex with our wives' handmaidens. If it was good enough for Abraham....

A last comment on the lighter side. Moderateman, my friend, I would avoid the phrase "rammed down my throat" when discussing gay marriage. It is, shall I say, distasteful.

on Mar 16, 2006
Saying that gay marriage is an example of "forcing states to bow to the Federal will" is also misleading. There are cases of states recognizing gay marriage and the Federal government fighting it.


Any place besides MASS? "Most" of what has been reported is the other way around. States adopting resolutions banning gay marriage and then being told by the supreme court (federal) that it's unconstitutional to do that. And that is "forcing a state to bow to federal will".
on Mar 16, 2006
13 by highbass
Wednesday, March 15, 2006


It's really very simple, George is the epitome of everything the far left hates.


ya your prolly right... he is a total idiot...


as oppossed to the losers from the left, if he is such an idiot why does the left have no power at all?

Must be awful for you lefties to lose the senate, the house and the whitehouse to idiots huh?

What does that say about you?
on Mar 16, 2006
#15 by highbass
Thursday, March 16, 2006


cause i didnt run for the position? and my pockets arent deep enough:(


no ones pockets are deep enough, and if you want to run just get soros and the other hate aamerica zillionaires behind you.
on Mar 16, 2006
16 by davad70
Thursday, March 16, 2006


Come on MM, you know that's not why you can't reason with me.


ok I will bite, why cannot you be reasoned with?
on Mar 16, 2006
#17 by high bass
Thursday, March 16, 2006


Come on MM, you know that's not why you can't reason with me.


well from reading his post i dont think he wants to reason... just wants to pick a fight ... and you are falling for it


nope, when I decide to flame, it is very upfront and apparent, just ask anyone here that reads me with any frequency.
on Mar 16, 2006
I like it Modman.... . So many words taken from my mouth.

George values commitment as a husband. When a lefty marry's, they value the commitment ideal then on to the next irreconcilable deal....
on Mar 16, 2006
The term "traditional values" is misleading. The Fundamentalist Church of Latter Day Saints has a "tradition" of polygamy

You're way off base here. They don't have a tradition as you imply since the Mormon church denounced polygamy and it's practitioners a long time ago. Those practicing today are only a very small splinter segment of traditionalists.
on Mar 16, 2006
" BakerStreet offers a postulate that "Gay "marriage" will just make it more of a joke." Any support? Are gay marriages more or less stable than hetero marriages?"


The only way you could disprove my point is by proving gay marriages are more stable. Given what I, personally, have seen of gay relationships, I'd say it is about the same. As I said, they'll just make it more of a joke by adding to the already sad number of heterosexuals that have no respect for the institution.

"Saying that gay marriage is an example of "forcing states to bow to the Federal will" is also misleading. There are cases of states recognizing gay marriage and the Federal government fighting it."


And I differ with that, too. Sadly, since the Federal government relies upon the state-defined married status of people to decide taxes and benefits, they'll have their thumb in the pie. The fact is, this will become a constitutional issue eventually, with people claiming to be denied rights in some states that are allowed in others.

Where most people differ, much like abortion, as to whether a)marriage is a right, and b)whether gay people are being denied the right to marry. They really aren't, they are just restricted as to WHO they can marry. In those terms we as a nation place restrictions on licenses all the time.
on Mar 16, 2006
Ok, since this has become a debate about gay marriage (which means I will ignore the content of the actual article) what does everyone think about the GOVERNMENT, not saying anything about churches, getting rid of the whole sanctioning of marriage thing and allow civil unions between consenting adults? Marriages are what happen in church, between people who want to make that commitment in the eyes of God, and civil unions give two adult people equal rights under the supposedly secular laws of the land?

I just want to add, after weeks of internal debate about saying so, ModerateMan you may want to think about your name unless, of course, that's what your mother named you. You are anything but "moderate."
on Mar 16, 2006
"Marriages are what happen in church, between people who want to make that commitment in the eyes of God, and civil unions give two adult people equal rights under the supposedly secular laws of the land?"


My Solution to the Gay Marriage debate, circa Feb. 2004. In my opinion if marriage has to be defined, let it be defined by the people in their own way. If gay "marriage" must be allowed, then civil unions for everyone. I'm dubious about telling the state governments they can't set restrictions on licenses they issue internally, and anything we can do to stop that watershed of whining would be a great thing.
on Mar 16, 2006
Reply By: TitanI9Posted: Thursday, March 16, 2006I like it Modman.... . So many words taken from my mouth.George values commitment as a husband. When a lefty marry's, they value the commitment ideal then on to the next irreconcilable deal....


except for teddy kennedy, when he is done with a relationship, he simply drowns her,

Mary jo kopekne cannot answer for herself.
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