because EVERYONE under her is a democrat and needs constant supervision

You left yourself so open for a good old witty one liner, I'll let it slide this time for the sake of argument.

#18 by enigmagnetic Friday, June 03, 2005

because EVERYONE under her is a democrat and needs constant supervision You left yourself so open for a good old witty one liner, I'll let it slide this time for the sake of argument.

noooooooooo let it fly I love a good double entandre..

COMMON SENSE ALERT:
Howard Dean was obviously not talking about registered Republicans. He was talking about Republican political leadership in Washington.

Did you really think he was talking about all of you, or are you just being disingenuous? I'm sorry for sounding offensive, but it really shocks me to log on and find this stuff being posted. I thought it was quite obvious what he meant.


Howard Dean today on Wolf Blitzer Reports
(notice he talks about it being hard to make ends meet and "raise a child in a morally ambiguous environment")

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0506/03/wbr.01.html

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

HOWARD DEAN, DNC CHAIR: Well, Republicans, I guess, can do that, because a lot of them have never made an honest living in their lives.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BLITZER: The Republican National Committee was quick to respond. It said "Dean's speech shows that the Democratic Party not only lacks leadership but is overflowing with anger."

Joining us now from Kansas City, the Democratic National Committee chairman, Howard Dean.

Governor, thanks very much for joining us. Those were strong words. I'll give you a chance to explain what you meant.

DEAN: Sure. I guess my job is to outrage the Republicans these days. Harry Truman, as you well know, was once told by a campaign supporter, "Give them hell, Harry."

And he replied, "I don't give them hell. I just give them the truth and the Republicans think it's hell."

Here's a group of Republican leaders who think that they're appealing to working people. They don't want a minimum wage increase. They're cutting police people off the beat. They're attacking Social Security. Now comes out that people's private pensions are in trouble under this administration.

Tell me what the Republican leadership has in common with ordinary working people. It is as if the Republican leadership never had to work a day in their life. What possible understanding could they have of what a working person in this country has to go through, if they're against everything that's good for working people?

BLITZER: But there are millions and millions of Republicans, more than 50 million of them, voted for President Bush's re-election. Are you saying all these Republicans, they don't have to work for a living?

DEAN: No, no, no. Look, we don't go after voters. Voters are the ones that pay our salaries. No matter whether they agree with us or not. But we do go after bad leadership.

And the Republicans, they have run up the largest deficit in the history of the country. They're attacking Social Security. They've got us mired down in a mess in Iraq, of their own making. We need some real leadership in this country.

And they've got to have some understanding of what ordinary Americans are going through. It is hard to make ends meet. It is hard to raise a child in a morally ambiguous environment. And Democrats need to speak to those issues. We are going to speak to those issues.

But we ought to go after the Republicans when they are once again hypocritical about what they're going to do for working people. They do nothing for working people.

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BLITZER: This -- I guess what I'm suggesting is that -- you're talk about Republican leaders, political leaders.

DEAN: Yes.

BLITZER: But the impression you're giving is that you're talking about these millions, tens of million, of Republican people, average people, across the country that seem to be -- a lot of people are taking your words very personally.

DEAN: Well, you know, in part that's fueled by the Republican spin machine. I'm sure you must have gotten press releases about this, because as soon as I say things like this, the Republicans put out a cascade of paper.

My parents were Republicans. I don't hate Republicans. But I sure hate what this Republican Party is doing to America.

oh yeh wolf blitzer is known for being a left leaning idiot, with pretentions of being a great newsman.. he is also totally out of touch with reality and totally supports the democratic party, dean however condemns himself with his own words time after time.

It's asinine to say that if they had more voting machines that Democrats would win. Dean is trying to do damage control.

-Since Democrats work, and they can't afford to stand in line for hours, then the DNC suffered.

-More voting machines, shorter lines, Republicans suffer.

-The people who work, Democrats, didn't have a chance to wait in line to vote... so Bush won.

Twist it however you like. You can't spin your way out of such an idiotic statement.

I have a better idea. Double the lower limit for government handouts, build five times as much public housing, get another 20% of the population desperately reliant on public assistance, and then the Dems will win every election.

Oh, wait, that isn't what I meant. Lemme get with the folks who write my comments and I'll be available for a damage control interview later..-.

Reply By: BakerStreetPosted: Friday, June 03, 2005It's asinine to say that if they had more voting machines that Democrats would win. Dean is trying to do damage control. -Since Democrats work, and they can't afford to stand in line for hours, then the DNC suffered. -More voting machines, shorter lines, Republicans suffer.-The people who work, Democrats, didn't have a chance to wait in line to vote... so Bush won. Twist it however you like. You can't spin your way out of such an idiotic statement.I have a better idea. Double the lower limit for government handouts, build five times as much public housing, get another 20% of the population desperately reliant on public assistance, and then the Dems will win every election.Oh, wait, that isn't what I meant. Lemme get with the folks who write my comments and I'll be available for a damage control interview later..-.

lmao good one baker..

Nice job at irrelevantly smearing Wolf Blitzer with no evidence and ignoring Dean's statement.
You haven't refuted anything.

And BakerStreet, I don't think you read the transcript right. Notice he said if Democracts are going to lose, they should lose with 100% turnout, meaning he thinks election reform is a nonpartisan issue. No where did he say that if there was election reform Democrats would say. In fact, that is exactly what he did not say. In fact, it's exactly what he specifically denied.

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BLITZER: So -- so are you saying that it was unfair what happened in Ohio, that President Bush should not have been re-elected, that John Kerry should be in the White House?

DEAN: No, I didn't -- you're a -- that's a wonderful reporting technique, but of course, as you well know, I didn't say anything like that.

BLITZER: Well, tell us what you meant.

DEAN: I meant just exactly what I said. I think the Republican leadership in this country is completely out of touch with what ordinary Americans have to deal with in their daily lives.

And the idea that you ought to have to wait for hours and hours in order to cast your ballot is wrong, and those things are easily fixable. We simply need the right amount of voting machines in every precinct so you can wait for shorter periods of time to cast your ballot. We need things like same-day registration. And frankly, it wouldn't be such a bad thing to have a holiday so people who voted could get there and vote.

You know, this is the most important thing we do in America to maintain our government. We should make voting more easy, instead of less easy. And I don't think Republicans have any idea how hard it is for ordinary Americans to get to the polls.

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"dean however condemns himself with his own words time after time."
How? You haven't proved or explained that here....
You said he attacks all registered Republicans for not having worked for a living, yet I provided a text where he explained he meant Republican political leadership. (I actually shouldn't need to provide his explanation. Any thinking person who isn't out to twist words with an ax to grind should know what he meant. -- People don't say "national Republican political leadership".. people just say "republicans"; same about "Democrats")

And by the way:
"Howard the coward". That's so witty! It rhymes and.. oh, wait, that's all it does... Not only is Dean not perceived as a coward (rendering your slogan not-funny satire), but his perception is the exact opposite of a coward. (maverick, says what's on his mind, etc..)

JR: Nope. You're reading his damage control explaination. The original point was that the Republicans took Ohio because the lines at the polls were too long and "working people" didn't have time to wait in line.

Yes, he has now spun it towards the Republican leadership, but it is patently obvious that his original point was that Republicans had the leisure to stand in line and hard working Democrats were disenfranchised.

Just a couple of comments......it was always my belief that the people of this nation ran the government instead of one party or the other. Power emanates from the people, not the other way around.

Secondly, many of these replies adequately illustrate the the sad division existing in this nation between inflicted labels. Liberal versus conservative, progressive versus neoconservative; and while the arguments and accustations are flung between the supposed two groups, those that encourage this are making money hands over fist. Did you ever think it was odd that Rush, O'Reilly and the rest seldom venture into a non-controlled arena where they are subject to questioning? The same goes for President Bush whose handlers want a "controlled" enviroment not where he will be subjected to justifying policies or statements.

Hammer away at each other and when its done, those who have advocated this rift will have no conscious about their needs nor will they care about you or your family. Isn't that already evident by what we see around us?

Reply By: Khesanh(Anonymous User)Posted: Saturday, June 04, 2005Just a couple of comments......it was always my belief that the people of this nation ran the government instead of one party or the other. Power emanates from the people, not the other way around.Secondly, many of these replies adequately illustrate the the sad division existing in this nation between inflicted labels. Liberal versus conservative, progressive versus neoconservative; and while the arguments and accustations are flung between the supposed two groups, those that encourage this are making money hands over fist. Did you ever think it was odd that Rush, O'Reilly and the rest seldom venture into a non-controlled arena where they are subject to questioning? The same goes for President Bush whose handlers want a "controlled" enviroment not where he will be subjected to justifying policies or statements.Hammer away at each other and when its done, those who have advocated this rift will have no conscious about their needs nor will they care about you or your family. Isn't that already evident by what we see around us?

agreed, except for one small fact. bill O'reilly took Bush to task in an interview, O'reilly never softballs anyone.

DEAN: I meant just exactly what I said. I think the Republican leadership in this country is completely out of touch with what ordinary Americans have to deal with in their daily lives

It's just so funny when the head of the DNC, the losing party, says Republicans are out of touch.

Its just a shame how Dean can slander the hard working Illegals,after all their the ones that put both parties in office

oh yeh wolf blitzer is known for being a left leaning idiot,

Whatever you think of blitzer is immaterial to the contention you made that Dean thinks that repubs don't work, and to which James Rove here showed that your contention is, in fact, disengenuous spin, tantamount to inciteful lying.

Reply By: dabePosted: Saturday, June 04, 2005oh yeh wolf blitzer is known for being a left leaning idiot, Whatever you think of blitzer is immaterial to the contention you made that Dean thinks that repubs don't work, and to which James Rove here showed that your contention is, in fact, disengenuous spin, tantamount to inciteful lying.

sorry dabe . but I saw and heard his mini rant, and he said what he ment.. republicans never worked a day in his life, and If I qouted bill o'reilly or sean hannity or rush limbaugh, you would be saying the same thing I said.

Reply By: Island DogPosted: Saturday, June 04, 2005DEAN: I meant just exactly what I said. I think the Republican leadership in this country is completely out of touch with what ordinary Americans have to deal with in their daily livesIt's just so funny when the head of the DNC, the losing party, says Republicans are out of touch.

whats so funny is that is why the democratic party lost the last election, they are so far out of touch with mainstream america and cannot see it.