America has problems, but America is NOT THE PROBLEM!~
what liberals think and the propaganda they spread
Published on February 16, 2005 By Moderateman In Politics
Impact Segment
A no-spin look at print media
Guests: Author Bob Kohn & columnist Debra Saunders

The Factor analyzed the editorial pages of ten leading newspapers, and discovered that liberal columnists outnumber conservatives by about 4-1. Author Bob Kohn and columnist Debra Saunders joined The Factor to explain the apparent imbalance. "This is an industry that is always looking for diversity," Saunders said, "but not diversity of opinion. People in this business are overwhelmingly liberal. And they will tell you that most journalists are liberal because smart people tend to be liberal." Kohn claimed the liberal bias isn't limited to the editorial pages. "These papers are providing a skewed view of public opinion. The bigger problem is when they slant their news on the news pages." The Factor contended that the major problem is that papers like the New York Times and Washington Post influence the rest of the media. "The newspapers set the agenda for the television people. So it bleeds over into local television, and the folks are getting group think. The propaganda value of having so many columnists on the left is overwhelming."

Simple huh??? if the same message is repeated over and over at a 4 to 1 ratio sooner or later some converts will be made.

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on Feb 16, 2005
Did they do an assessment of the editorial pages during the Clinton years?

IG
on Feb 16, 2005
Reply By: InfoGeekPosted: Wednesday, February 16, 2005Did they do an assessment of the editorial pages during the Clinton years?


I do not have that answere ig...
on Feb 16, 2005

I have seen the tendancy of liberals to act as if they are more enlightened than everyone else.

It has been my experience that as a generalization that liberals tend to master surface level understanding of issues but confuse that understanding to be complete understanding. The personality profile of the typical liberal (again in my experience) is one of someone who has a hard time dealing with details. They don't have the patience to delve into the underlying issues.

When confronted with that complexity, the liberal response is usually very cutting but witty. As if wit and a clever retort are a substitute for true understanding of the issue. Or they'll dismiss a serious issue with a one line retort:

Conservative: The US can't accept the Kyoto treaty because it was crafted to severely damage the US economy and leaves the biggest up and coming polluters like China, India and Russia totally untouched.

Liberal respnse: "Oh, well I hope your precious SUVs can swim, because they're going to need it once the polar ice caps melt."

This type of half-assed intellectualism usually leads to feel-good policies that can do more harm than good simply because the liberals who proposed and enacted it couldn't be bothered to think it out to their logical conclusion.

Conservative: "You do realize that if you pay people to stay at home and have babies that they will stay at home and have babies?"

Liberal: "And your solution was working so well too eh? 'are there not workhouses'?" (see how clever I am? I made a point and quoted Dickens at the same time! Score one for me!)

 

on Feb 16, 2005
Reply By: DraginolPosted: Wednesday, February 16, 2005


When confronted with that complexity, the liberal response is usually very cutting but witty. As if wit and a clever retort are a substitute for true understanding of the issue. Or they'll dismiss a serious issue with a one line retort:Conservative: The US can't accept the Kyoto treaty because it was crafted to severely damage the US economy and leaves the biggest up and coming polluters like China, India and Russia totally untouched.Liberal respnse: "Oh, well I hope your precious SUVs can swim, because they're going to need it once the polar ice caps melt."


my point exactly.. all I ever want is for liberals to think things throught to thier logical conclusion.
on Feb 16, 2005

And they will tell you that most journalists are liberal because smart people tend to be liberal

That probably is the most telling statement.  arrogant and small minded.  And exactly why they cannot compromise with 'idiots' that dont agree with them.

on Feb 16, 2005

When confronted with that complexity, the liberal response is usually very cutting but witty. As if wit and a clever retort are a substitute for true understanding of the issue. Or they'll dismiss a serious issue with a one line retort:

I think that says volumes and is one of the main rants of Moderateman.  I notice the same thing, but after arguing points and logic, I basically let them go on their way as they still have failed to make a point, but continue to flog the flood.

on Feb 16, 2005
Reply By: Dr. GuyPosted: Wednesday, February 16, 2005When confronted with that complexity, the liberal response is usually very cutting but witty. As if wit and a clever retort are a substitute for true understanding of the issue. Or they'll dismiss a serious issue with a one line retort:I think that says volumes and is one of the main rants of Moderateman. I notice the same thing, but after arguing points and logic, I basically let them go on their way as they still have failed to make a point, but continue to flog the flood.


I am presently accepting enrollment in my Rant 303 classes for advanced ranting.... giggle
on Feb 16, 2005
Reply By: Dr. GuyPosted: Wednesday, February 16, 2005


That probably is the most telling statement. arrogant and small minded. And exactly why they cannot compromise with 'idiots' that dont agree with them.


exactly... short and to the point.
on Feb 16, 2005
hey brad?? how did that thing sneak into my blog when I have it blacklisted? I have flushed its responses down the toilet where it belongs, but would like to keep it away from my site.
on Feb 16, 2005

Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting (FAIR) has on its website a report conducted by the Virginia Commonwealth University .Link which evaluates the myth of liberal media bias that is so often advanced by conservatives. In that report, which is based on survey results that included most of the mainstream media outlets, they have found that the media is predominantly conservative, with only environmental issues being of a more left leaning ilk. The intro of the report states:

FAIR is not an unbiased source.  It is left of the San Fran Chronicle, so to them, Pravda  circa 1975 was conservative!  try again!

on Feb 16, 2005

To presume that I do not think things through because I am a liberal is nonsense. By thinking that, it is just a mechanism to summarily dismiss a liberal's points and arguments, thereby reinforcing your own biases, It's just an overcompensation thing, like the Napolean Complex.

ooohhhh!  Learned a new term today!  But at 6'2", I doubt MM suffers from that complex.

on Feb 16, 2005
Reply By: Dr. GuyPosted: Wednesday, February 16, 2005To presume that I do not think things through because I am a liberal is nonsense. By thinking that, it is just a mechanism to summarily dismiss a liberal's points and arguments, thereby reinforcing your own biases, It's just an overcompensation thing, like the Napolean Complex.ooohhhh! Learned a new term today! But at 6'2", I doubt MM suffers from that complex


damn it , it is like a canker sore, no matter how many times you medicate it{ blacklist it} it keeps reappearing.
on Feb 16, 2005

You have to also not allow anonymous people to respond if you want full control of who comments.

BTW, I don't want someone to misunderstand me - I know lots and lots of liberals who are very logical, intelligent, and insightful. Just like I know lots of conservatives who are brutish, provincial, and foolish.  The difference has to do with the general representative of both sides.

on Feb 16, 2005

BTW, I don't want someone to misunderstand me - I know lots and lots of liberals who are very logical, intelligent, and insightful.

Stevendedalus, Thatoneguyinslc, Kingbee, ProgressiveUSA, TexasWahine, Champas Socialist. (Sorry If I left anyone else out that I think more moderate like shadesofgrey).

Very good debate people, and worthy on any topic.  They even convince me on some occasions!

on Feb 17, 2005
BTW, I don't want someone to misunderstand me - I know lots and lots of liberals who are very logical, intelligent, and insightful. Just like I know lots of conservatives who are brutish, provincial, and foolish. The difference has to do with the general representative of both sides.


so do I brad, my brother and sister in law for 2 I respect and admire them, but there not insane and open to differing points of views.
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