America has problems, but America is NOT THE PROBLEM!~
Published on December 1, 2006 By Moderateman In Politics

While I could on an intellectual level understand the anger from the Democrats over the last 6 years, no power, no vision {still they have no vision}, I cannot for the life of me understand why are they still pissy?

From incoming congressman webs RUDE snub of the President to infighting over Jack {quick runaway and hide Murtha}, to the infighting over Alcee{gimme money for my decisions} Hastings, The Democrats having no one on the right except the President to fight about now are turning on each other. Like a pack of rabid dogs savaging meat, I will sit back, enjoy the spectacle of the most liberal House speaker ever try to run America into the ground with higher taxes and more entitlements for people that should really learn how to take care of themselves.

After there sweeping victory in November Midterms one would think the left would calm down, but noooo.. they continue to fight, even when there is no need to.

I wonder if the left knows how lucky they are to win the way they did? They ran on the famous "we can do it better" without ever defining what "IT" is.
 

For at least five years all we have heard is bickering, complaining and cries of anyone but Bush, well kids now that you have won, try to at least act like adults and govern.

 


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on Dec 02, 2006
I think it's fine that if someone's liberal as long as they don't try to tell me how I should be living my life (Same goes for conservatives).


I wouldn't be the liberal type that would do it. The only thing I would do is make sure you can live your life the way you wish. (of course, within the law)

on Dec 02, 2006

Reply By: little-whipPosted: Saturday, December 02, 2006
Ooh ooh, can I make a generalization about the far right?


Lucas, Head of the Generalizations Gestapo.

He only does this crap because he can think of nothing meaningful to add.

yer beatin a dead critter whip... when yer gonna stop?

on Dec 02, 2006

 

Reply By: DraginolPosted: Friday, December 01, 2006
Silent Poet seems incapable of dealing with generalities

yes he does.

That's why in the real world -- leaders almost always are conservatives. Regardless of the field -- even politics

Gee I was expecting one the dumb liberals to come in here with a list of great liberal leaders.

on Dec 02, 2006

Reply By: MasonMPosted: Friday, December 01, 2006
The Left's sole purpose in life is to bitch and complain about all of the things that are wrong with the world, the system, or whatever. If everything was going well they would cease to have any reason to exist.

yer left out whine and put down anyones idea that does not match their twisted view of the world

on Dec 02, 2006

Gee I was expecting one the dumb liberals to come in here with a list of great liberal leaders.

Outside a handful of US Presidents, they would have a very VERY short list. Outside the occasional politician, it's difficult to find liberals who are leaders.

on Dec 04, 2006
Hey mod, sorry for the late reply. I've tried to post this, but wouldn't work until now. I found the trick, post any long replies in pieces/chunks.


So, without further adieu...a list, by a "loony leftie."

Here we go for a nice challenge, name some great world shaking things that liberals have created and made a difference in the world.


Hmmm, lemme think....


Abolishment of slavery

Founding of USA (They 'were' liberals)

Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790) ~ Take a guess...

Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826) ~ Wrote the US Declaration of Independence

Franklin Delano Roosevelt (1882–1945) ~ Led america through WW2, CCC, New deal, etc...

Harry Truman (1884-1972) - Same as above

John F. Kennedy (1917-1963) ~ Stopped the missled crisis

Martin Luther King, Jr. (1929-1968) ~ Hmm, take a guess.

on Dec 04, 2006
Also, liberalism has helped drive...

Individual rights
Individualism
Liberal democracy
Liberal neutrality
Negative & positive Liberty
Free market
Mixed economy
Open society


~L
on Dec 04, 2006
Hmmm, lemme think....


Abolishment of slavery

Founding of USA (They 'were' liberals)

Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790) ~ Take a guess...

Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826) ~ Wrote the US Declaration of Independence

Franklin Delano Roosevelt (1882–1945) ~ Led america through WW2, CCC, New deal, etc...

Harry Truman (1884-1972) - Same as above

John F. Kennedy (1917-1963) ~ Stopped the missled crisis

Martin Luther King, Jr. (1929-1968) ~ Hmm, take a guess.


1 - Wrong
2 Wrong
3 - Wrong
4 - wrong

5, 6, 7 and 8 would die if they saw what a liberal was today.

At best, and that is stretching things, you get 50%. Last I checked, that is a failing grade in any school, except of course the liberal school of new speak.

Back at you. Name the presidents responsible for the 3 biggest tax cuts.

Name the presidents who did not yell for a cut and run.

Now, name any liberal today that is not yelling for wiping out tax cuts, and cut and run.
on Dec 04, 2006
Dude........

b'ah...

Franklin 'was' a liberal.

Jefferson, look at how he adopt the ideas of John Locke, which are the basis for liberalism.

A majority of liberals, helped form the US. You know why? At that time, the conservative factions were the ones loyal to britain. The liberals, were intent on forming a new nation.

As for slavery...let me go find that refute i wrote for Brad on another thread.

Perhaps they would, but...as modman said...."name some great world shaking things that liberals have created and made a difference in the world."

I did so.


Presidents: Reagan, Clinton (I don't remember him ever saying anything about "cut and running."), GWB 41, Carter(?), and erm...Ford(?).


Kennedy, Reagan, Bush, and Clinton?

A liberal that is not " yelling for wiping out tax cuts, and cut and run."

Me...for 1) i prefer tax cuts 2) It's called an honorable defeat, and keeping what integrity our gov't has.

"Cut and run," is a propagandic term devised by the hard core of the war supporters to lambaste/slander those individuals calling for an exit from the war. Plain and simple.

on Dec 05, 2006
Dude........


Dude you cant count. Franklin was 5, not 4. And the first 4 were not liberals, but conservatives. Dont rewrite history. ANd it was JFK who enacted the first of the 3 big tax cuts - hardly in the liberal lexicon today. And it was Truman and FDR who would not cut and run in those wars - thankfully not condeming thousands of Americans to useless deaths.

So that leaves you with MLK - and some say he was a republican. But whatever his affiliation, one thing is for certain. He did not agree with the current democrat platform as his central theme was "that all men be judged by the quality of their character and not the color of their skin".

So I am going to have to change your score to a big fat 0.
on Dec 05, 2006
Dude you cant count. Franklin was 5, not 4. And the first 4 were not liberals, but conservatives.


Okay, prove it...

Also,

My apologies, i counted slavery and founding america in the counting.

ANd it was JFK who enacted the first of the 3 big tax cuts - hardly in the liberal lexicon today. And it was Truman and FDR who would not cut and run in those wars - thankfully not condeming thousands of Americans to useless deaths.


and they were liberals! Just because they were different flavors, does not deny that they WERE liberals.

So that leaves you with MLK - and some say he was a republican. But whatever his affiliation, one thing is for certain. He did not agree with the current democrat platform as his central theme was "that all men be judged by the quality of their character and not the color of their skin".


He may not have, but im not talking about democrats dude. Yet again, you lump us all together. In case you hadn't realized: "Not every liberal is democrat, and not every democrat is liberal."







on Dec 05, 2006

Reply By: Zoologist03Posted: Friday, December 01, 2006
I'm a Democrat. I'm not pissy...and I have glasses so I have vision.

Maybe I'm just a rarity.

~Zoo

 

you nailed it zoo... a sane democrat, fast becoming extinct.

on Dec 05, 2006

Reply By: SilentPoetPosted: Monday, December 04, 2006
Hey mod, sorry for the late reply. I've tried to post this, but wouldn't work until now. I found the trick, post any long replies in pieces/chunks.


So, without further adieu...a list, by a "loony leftie."

Here we go for a nice challenge, name some great world shaking things that liberals have created and made a difference in the world.


Hmmm, lemme think....


Abolishment of slavery
  Linclon was a republican.

The rest are old school moderate democrats.

on Dec 05, 2006
Okay, prove it...


You made the slur, you prove it.
on Dec 05, 2006
Linclon was a republican.
The rest are old school moderate democrats.


Yes, you're correct, my apologies. He was a moderate republican, and was a good "friend" (at times/when it suited them) to the radical republicans who became th democrats, who then evolved into what we have today.

By the standards/measure, at the time, he was very liberal/progressive. For what means, who knows. For all we know, he could've freed the slaves, and done other things just because he wanted political power, who knows.

You made the slur, you prove it.


Slur....wtf?

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