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Sleeping with the enemy..
Published on May 24, 2005 By Moderateman In Republican
Why the Republicans folded on the so called nuke option is beyond me.

Now when My President wants to place someone on the HIGH court {supreme} there is going to be another long drawn out brawl
and more blabbermouthing from the left.

They should have just pulled the trigger on the slack jawed dems and be done with it.

Last time I checked this was still america and the majority rules, I know that this was brokered by a couple moderates I respect McCain and Leiberamn but why put off the inevitable?

To make a deal with the much weaker party to forstall filibusters is a joke, The republicans have a majority, they should use it.

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on May 24, 2005
Too many high ranking Senate Republicans are part of "The Get Along Gang". They don't seem to care about the Constitutional mandate of Seperation of Powers, as long as they can get warm "Bipartisan" fuzzies, they consider their job done.

The Democrats, once again, lie about how they'll only filibuster for "extroadinary circumstances"... what, like any nominee Prs. Bush would name for the Supreme Court? If the Senate Democrats want to play the "extroardinary circumstances" game, let's see how Justice Ruth Buzzy Ginsburg would stack up to their ""extroardinary circumstances" criteria. A person who advocated lowering the age of consent to 12, and wanted all organizations that recognized a difference between males and females (private or public) disbanded (no more medals for female athelets I guess). Nah, nothing "extroardinary" there.

When will both the Democrats and Republicans end the stupidity and start governing!!!
on May 24, 2005

extroadinary circumstances"...

Define Extraordinary.  I defy any one to.  Want to bet it does includes anyone right of Hillary?

Some of the repubs caved.  But Frist says he will fight on.  I Hope so.

on May 24, 2005
1 by ParaTed2k
Tuesday, May 24, 2005


When will both the Democrats and Republicans end the stupidity and start governing!!!


exactly ted, while these two parties are bizy playing politics the nation is getting flushed down the shitter.
on May 24, 2005
#2 by Dr. Guy
Tuesday, May 24, 2005


Define Extraordinary. I defy any one to. Want to bet it does includes anyone right of Hillary?
Some of the repubs caved. But Frist says he will fight on. I Hope so.


I can give you the "liberal" definition of extraordinary, it means anyone that will go by the law as written and not mandate and legislate from the bench as so many liberals love.
on May 24, 2005

From Bill Frist just minutes ago:

As promised, an update on the judicial nominee front ...

Last night, an arrangement was reached by fourteen of my colleagues. I was not a party to it, and here's why...

I do not agree with it because it does not get the job done of ensuring fair, up or down votes on all judicial nominees sent to the Senate by the President.

It is my firm belief that--on principle--all judicial nominees deserve an up or down vote on the floor of the United States Senate.

The new understanding, if followed in good faith, affirms my principle to some extent. It marks some break in the partisan obstruction of the past two years, and ensures that seven outstanding jurists-including Priscilla Owen, Janice Rogers Brown and William Pryor--will get the fair up or down votes they have long deserved.

But it does not grant fairness to all other jurists. It still allows mindless filibusters to be triggered at the whim of a minority more interested in obstruction than progress.

And that is a shame.

So make no mistake, the Constitutional Option remains on the table. If the minority again acts in bad faith--if they resume their campaign of mindless judicial obstruction--I will NOT hesitate to call it to a vote.

Not for a second.

For too long on judicial nominees, the filibuster was abused to facilitate partisanship, and subvert principle.

We have exposed the injustice of judicial obstruction in the last Congress, and advanced the core Constitutional principle that all judicial nominees deserve a fair up or down vote on the floor of the U.S. Senate.

So the Senate will begin to execute this arrangement, with a vote up or down on Priscilla Owen. Giving up their minority-party led obstructionism, the Senate invoked cloture on her today by a vote of 81-18. Priscilla Owen--after four years, two weeks and two days--will finally receive the fair, up or down vote she deserves.

And, mark my words, more judges like her will follow in the days ahead. I hope the minority will respect the will of the majority, and give judges the courtesy, the respect, of a fair, up or down vote.


Bill Frist

on May 24, 2005

And Dole:

Senator Dole Reacts to Judicial Compromise

Senator Elizabeth Dole (R-NC), Chair of the National Republican Senatorial Committee, issued the following statement on the judicial compromise:

"Although I am pleased that some of the President's qualified judicial nominees are finally getting the fair up or down vote they deserve, I am disappointed that not all nominees will be afforded that same courtesy. The understanding made by the group of fourteen made clear that judicial philosophy is not a legitimate reason to filibuster qualified judges. If Democrats should choose to continue their unprecedented use of the filibuster, we should immediately move to the constitutional option. Although I believe a vote on the constitutional option was certainly justified today, I am glad that it has not been taken off the table for future confirmation debates."

on May 24, 2005
When will both the Democrats and Republicans end the stupidity and start governing!!!


When they can no longer continue to claim the high ground by pointing the finger at the other as the problem.

In my opinion, that is either through the rise of one or more third parties, or some member on both sides just sacking up and deciding to be individuals, instead of tools for ideologies that aren't even followed.

on May 24, 2005
5 by Dr. Guy
Tuesday, May 24, 2005


6 by Dr. Guy
Tuesday, May 24, 2005


thanx for posting these doc, I for one am glad the option of nuking the dems into submission is not lost.

Listening for the sound of high explosives...........
on May 24, 2005
Reply By: Demosthenes LockePosted: Tuesday, May 24, 2005When will both the Democrats and Republicans end the stupidity and start governing!!!When they can no longer continue to claim the high ground by pointing the finger at the other as the problem.In my opinion, that is either through the rise of one or more third parties, or some member on both sides just sacking up and deciding to be individuals, instead of tools for ideologies that aren't even followed.


excellant point..
on May 24, 2005
In my opinion, that is either through the rise of one or more third parties, or some member on both sides just sacking up and deciding to be individuals, instead of tools for ideologies that aren't even followed.


I think you mean Sucking up. And good thoughtful response. i dont agre, but I want to think more on it. (I dont agree because congress is the great equalizer - where great men become ordinary, and weak ones stay that way).
on May 24, 2005
Reply By: Dr. GuyPosted: Tuesday, May 24, 2005In my opinion, that is either through the rise of one or more third parties, or some member on both sides just sacking up and deciding to be individuals, instead of tools for ideologies that aren't even followed.I think you mean Sucking up. And good thoughtful response. i dont agre, but I want to think more on it. (I dont agree because congress is the great equalizer - where great men become ordinary, and weak ones stay that way).


I heard that the whole job of congress is to "advise and consent" when it concerns presidential nominations, no where is the job description does it say advise and obstruct.
on May 24, 2005

I heard that the whole job of congress is to "advise and consent" when it concerns presidential nominations, no where is the job description does it say advise and obstruct.

Ask Dean!  Up to 7 and rising fast on his foot in mouth disease!

hey, Frist and Dole said no way.  They are going to fight.  Sometimes it takes a martyr.  Sorry about one of those clowns.  he is my senator, but I have never liked him.  He is better than Boxer, but not by a lot.

on May 24, 2005
hey, Frist and Dole said no way. They are going to fight


I think bill frist and shrillery should get nekkid and fight it out to the death. eh eh eh eh
on May 24, 2005
The Democrats, once again, lie about how they'll only filibuster for "extraordinary circumstances"... what, like any nominee Prs. Bush would name for the Supreme Court?


Hey Ted you do realize of course that the ones being filibustered are not supreme count judges? The buttheads are filibustering appellate court judges. Also an FYI... when they tell you that they have OKed 210 out of GW's 219. Ask them how many appellate court judges were OKed. The number stands at 53%.
on May 24, 2005
#14 by drmiler
Tuesday, May 24, 2005


Hey Ted you do realize of course that the ones being filibustered are not supreme count judges? The buttheads are filibustering appellate court judges. Also an FYI... when they tell you that they have OKed 210 out of GW's 219. Ask them how many appellate court judges were OKed. The number stands at 53%.


I am sure ted knows doc, but the whole filibuster thing is ABOUT the supreme court... down the road a bit.
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